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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by simias »

This image showcasing the thinness of the iPad looks perfectly flat: https://www.apple.com/v/ipad-pro/p/images/overview/portable_...

However in the first image showing the iPad from the side there's a clear bulge, I'm assuming for the camera: https://www.apple.com/v/ipad-pro/p/images/overview/hero__b2q...

So is it flat or not? It might seem like a small nitpick but I hate this trend of having a bulge for the camera just so that you can say that the rest of the assembly is like 2mm thinner. Who cares? Now you have something that looks and feels worse and you can't put it flat on its back.

I hope they at least engineered it in a way that makes the tablet stable when lying down on a flat surface instead of wobbling on the pivot of the camera bulge.

EDIT: Actually I just noticed that the bulge seems to be here in the first image, it's just hidden in the palm of the hand. Good job Apple marketers, bad job apple designers.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by saagarjha »

rtkwe wrote: post #87
saagarjha wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Pencil is more durable than you’d think. Normal jostling while it’s charging doesn’t really affect it. With regards to USB C, I think they’re trying it out on the new iPads because these are ostensibly their “pro” iOS devices, so it makes sense to put higher-throughput ports on them first.

I'm less worried about the pencil than I am the port/connector. The pencil is pretty long and there's not much slop back front to back in that port to deal with jostling.

The end of the pencil, near the connector, has some flex in it.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by lorenzhs »

davemp wrote: post #133

It's such a shame that there's no thunderbolt 3 in the iPad Pro. I would love to ditch my MBP to just plug an iPad into a TB3 monitor and get a mouse, keyboard, drawing tablet, and charging with 1 wire. I can get close to that with a MBP. The only downsides are a MBP is heavier for mobile use and I'd have to buy an expensive tablet.

The USB-C spec supports that, you don't need TB3 for these features. Of course I don't know whether Apple actually implemented all of that. I have a WQHD USB-C monitor (Lenovo P24h) with 45W power delivery, a USB 3 hub, and audio out at home, and it does this without TB3. So it might also be possible with this new iPad Pro.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by rtkwe »

jrs95 wrote: post #100
rtkwe wrote: post #11

Huh looks like most of the predictions I'd heard came true: USB-C and no home button. Wonder if they're going to do the same shift on the rest of the lines? I'm a little surprised that the iPhone Xs and Xr weren't switched over to USB-c if this is planned for the whole line. Charging the pencil attached to the side is pretty neat the old solution was very... odd and seemed pretty dangerous (having such a long lever a…

I'm almost certain that the next iPhone will use USB-C. They just didn't want to do that so soon after getting rid of the headphone jack and promoting the idea of lightning headphones.

Really that was the time to make the switch to USB-C. Now some (I have no idea of the number though) number of people have gone out and bought lightning headphones.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by eecc »

I expect this iteration of Macbook Airs to be the last one.

When the time for the next refresh comes, Apple will have migrated their portable line to these iPad convertibles.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by LyndsySimon »

cm2187 wrote: post #132
jaegerpicker wrote: post #125

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Depends on what you want to output. Webapps? Nothing, it already has all you need, especially if you are willing to use a remote server that you are ssh'ed into but you don't NEED that. For native compiled code and apps? Apple needs to release a Xcode compiler and a developer mode that lets you run self-signed binaries on the hardware.

If you develop anything for the web, don't you need to check how it renders on other browsers?

Safari is usually good enough for what I do. I can use BrowserStack if need be, too.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by clawoo »

criddell wrote: post #196
calgoo wrote: post #123

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Am I the only one who actually like to have an edge on my devices so they dont break by looking at them? At least if there is a metal edge it can take some of the force and you have a chance of not breaking the screen. I dont understand why metal is bad and glass is somehow good? Also, I need to grab my ipad, move it around, spin it, grab it with the other hand etc. I see the edges / bezel's as very useful in these c…

Why not just put a case on it?

Billions of dollars in research and industrial design, thousands of man-hours sourcing the perfect materials, hundreds of thousands of hours of engineering that give a device a most perfect feel.

Only to be placed in a $10 case with bunny ears so it won't crack if you accidentally drop it.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by bch »

tyingq wrote: post #41

"The new Liquid Retina display goes from edge to edge" I've never owned an iPad, perhaps I'm missing something here. How does the above statement reconcile with the pictures I see on the page where there's clearly a black bezel? Do they just mean there's not an area at the bottom with a physical button?

Indeed. People do just love hearing words...

Presenter: “This display goes from its start...”

(Audience gasps)

Presenter: “...all the way until it ends! We call this ‘entire’.”

Audience:

Audience Member 1: (whispering) “I can’t wait until I can get a device with an entire display. I’ll have to put in some OT at the job to save up, though.”

Audience Member 2: “What do you do?”

AM1: “I work at a company that specializes in digging half-holes.”

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by IkmoIkmo »

badestrand wrote: post #178
IkmoIkmo wrote: post #101

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It's like saying 'lightning fast', when in reality it could be faster or slower than lightning, it's a metaphor that does well in marketing and doesn't leave you open to legal challenges as much as a more technical reference (e.g. 'zero bezels) would, but gets the point across that bezels are thinner than usual.

> it's a metaphor No, "from edge to edge" and "all-screen design" are not metaphors but as concrete as it gets, and obviously wrong. This iPad may be great but these marketing texts are just straight lies.

You don't seem to understand what a metaphor means.

If I say it's fast as lightning, I'm not saying it's exactly that fast. It's a metaphor for fast.

The fact the speed of lightning is measurable and 'as concrete as it gets' doesn't change the fact that people use it as a metaphor.

You may feel the use of 'edge to edge' is an inappropriate metaphor that's fine, not every metaphor is fitting and, hell I'd even agree with you if you said that.

If you ask me, you can start saying edge-to-edge when the edge is at least 50-80% thinner than what it is now. But it's a metaphor nonetheless, and I'd feel fine applying it to extremely thin bezels which are not actually edge to edge. If you'd have said such a thin bezel was 'razor-thin' or 'paper-thin' when it really wasn't, I'd say it's still a perfectly fine metaphor.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by zeroname »

s3r3nity wrote: post #257

I'm really impressed that they made a number of environmental friendly additions, though they haven't been played up as much: - LED display is mercury-free - No arsenic - No BFR or PVC etc.

LED-backlit displays have always been mercury-free, it's the "ancient" CFL-backlit displays that needed mercury.
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