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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by werbel » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 4:21 PM UTC

tardigras wrote: post #110

minimaxir wrote: post #3

Very impressive demos, but unfortunately the number of apps that can make full use of the increased power is still limited. A common complaint I saw during the presentation was the emphasis of the A12X for gaming, but Apple is still very bad at incentivizing developers to make games with premium experiences and prices (to say nothing of the lack of an official gaming controller!) Also, the new Apple Pencil will only…

It always takes time to fully utilize a new platform's specs.

I remember 2005 when was running Windows with Linux in a VM, Photoshop, Firefox, my Rails application and all of the other software I needed for development, music and everything else on a 1GHz AMD Athlon and 256MB SDRAM.

When it comes to software that’s not games and stuff like video editing it seems to me like the most of what happens is “It takes time for new software/updates to show up that once again are able to waste the full extent of my newly acquired processing power”.

I know we get more robust games now, I know we render 4K videos instead of 460p, I know we display UI on higher resolution screens but there’s really no excuse for a software with similar feature scope to take the same resources percentage of modern top of the line hardware as mid-tier 18 years old machine.

Bummer ;(

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by omribahumi » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 4:21 PM UTC

gnicholas wrote: post #154

The 11" cellular model weighs the same as the 11" wifi model. But the 12.9" cellular model weighs 2 grams more than the 12.9" wifi model. Anyone know why this would be? Obviously not a big deal — just curiosity.

Different antenna perhaps?

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by tjr » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 4:21 PM UTC

reacharavindh wrote: post #139

Do you all use iPad for serious work? Curious what apps you use? Other than Apple Notes(with Apple Pencil), and watching NetFlix, I dont make good use of it. I'd love to get some recommendation for useful apps to try...

I mostly use it for displaying sheet music / band charts, and occasionally as a Presonus Studio One remote control.

I think I would like to move to using Adobe Lightroom on the iPad.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by stupidbird » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 4:22 PM UTC

OskarS wrote: post #156

stupidbird wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scrolling through layers in photoshop doesn't necessarily just scroll a list though, it's also actively selecting the content of those layers... which can be very complex (I didn't watch the demo so I'm not entirely sure of the specific scrolling context). You're dealing with filters, transparencies, hand-drawn paths, masking, linked files, embedded files — there's a wide realm of potential data and complexity. If yo…

If you want to test the mettle of a computer, try opening a large Photoshop file and doing anything in it. This, right here, is why it's an indictment of the software industry. It SHOULDN'T be impressive that Photoshop doesn't lag. When she said that line, the entire audience should have shrugged and said to themselves "Of course you can zoom into an image in Photoshop. It's 2018. What's the big deal?"

I don't know enough about software to contest that statement, but I suspect you could be underestimating the the complexity of what Photoshop does.

We're also talking about multi-gig files. Outside of media the occurrence of an individual application file this large is pretty small. It's not like you can reliably play a 4K video file on many entry-level machines either.

In a similar vein, I would argue that it's a better indictment of the industry that I sometimes have to close Chrome because it's hogging more resources than Photoshop.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by CGamesPlay » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 4:22 PM UTC

maxxxxx wrote: post #21

That site is horrible. First it scrolls horizontally and then it switches to vertical towards the end. Why do "designers" have to reinvent simple things again and again? Is there nothing better to do?

Why does using two-finger scroll vertically result in the page moving sideways? I think my touchpad driver is messed up, better visit the genius bar.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by vbezhenar » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 4:23 PM UTC

reacharavindh wrote: post #32

I wish they made an iPhone SE as a miniature form of this iPad. square-ish edges (easier to hold), better & larger LCD displays within the same body size, and powerful internals. The new iphones are just too big for one-handed use. you want to type the name of the website on top bar of mobile Safari - bring the next hand out or drop your phone....

I wish they keep iPhone SE design as it is and just update the internals.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by amiga-workbench » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 4:23 PM UTC

OskarS wrote: post #138

r0fl wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a 3gig PSD file. That is pretty impressive.

No! It's not! Not in 2018! You only think it's impressive because you're used to UI's being total fucking shit! That's why it's an indictment of the software industry! I'm not saying it's not hard: it is hard. Programming is hard. Making sure you're not occupying the UI thread for more than 16 milliseconds per frame is sometimes a challenge. You have to use all sorts of scary stuff like "concurrency" and "threads" an…

I'm glad somebody else feels this way, when my Amiga 1200 runs smoother than most modern computers you know something has gone horribly wrong.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by eddieroger » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 4:23 PM UTC

gnicholas wrote: post #154

The 11" cellular model weighs the same as the 11" wifi model. But the 12.9" cellular model weighs 2 grams more than the 12.9" wifi model. Anyone know why this would be? Obviously not a big deal — just curiosity.

While i have no way of actually knowing, my assumption is battery. They have historically juiced up the battery on cellular models.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by mediumdeviation » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 4:23 PM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #55

JosephRedfern wrote: post #45

The fixed-width bezel makes it look great. I like it. I don't know why the pencil didn't come with magnetic attachment from the get go, it seems like such a simple change that makes a big difference. The cynic in me thinks that it was deliberately withheld in v1 so that a big deal about its addition could be made in v2.

> I don't know why the pencil didn't come with magnetic attachment from the get go, it seems like such a simple change that makes a big difference. The sides of iPad used to be rounded, so it wouldn’t really stick.

Could have made the Pencil triangular. The new shape fixes yet another annoying ergonomic issue with the original - that it's really hard to hold comfortably for extended period of time. There's a reason pencils are hexagon, and pens have rubber grips.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by gehsty » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 4:23 PM UTC

jiaweihli wrote: post #142

I bought an iPad Pro (12.9") in mid 2017, and am already seeing significant slowdown. With 4-5 apps open, it lags when trying to scroll the home screen. I frequently need to kill open apps by going into the app switcher. When I bought a new iPhone, the difference was night and day. I regularly leave 30+ apps open without worrying about lag. Not sure why the iPad Pro struggles so much with multitasking, but it's kind…

I bought one when it first came out I 2015 and it is still running fine.. Maybe reinstall or check the battery? Does it discharge quicker than it should?