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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by jaegerpicker »

mschaef wrote: post #84
jaegerpicker wrote: post #4

I love my iPad Pro so much, this is a really great upgrade IMO. I'm sure I'll be planning on a way to upgrade. Only downside is that I prefer touchId to FaceId but I'm mostly switching back to a passcode in any case.

> I love my iPad Pro so much, Why? What is your use case? (Genuinely curious.)

I use it for nearly everything, it's simply the most convenient and fast computer device I own and I have far too many. Examples:

-- Art: Apple pencil and procreate are the best drawing platform on the market IMO, clips studio on iPad is really close. I'm not a professional but I have tried and owned Wacom's (including cintques) and a Microsoft surface book. The iPad pro's screen and drawing experience is far better IMO.

-- Music: I used to play guitar and still mess around a bit with it, also I've started programming electronic music. Garage Band, DJay Pro 2, and Bias Amp 2 are really amazing pieces of kit. The touch interface for Bias Amp 2 in particular is amazing and feels like using a real guitar amp.

-- Gaming: Card and Board games, Pandemic, Star Realms, Hearthstone, etc.... are absolutely killer on the big 12.9 inch screen. Civ 6 is also an amazing game on the iPad. Along with a ton of AR based games.

-- Reading: iBooks and Kindle

-- Of course all of the standard social media and communications apps. I use the Logitech smart connect keyboard and it's very nice.

-- Software Development: I'm an iOS dev and I use Swift playgrounds on iPad a ton to sketch ideas. When I do webdev I'll often use the iPad with Coda and a remote server and it's a great experience.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by figers »

reustle wrote: post #147
davemp wrote: post #133

It's such a shame that there's no thunderbolt 3 in the iPad Pro. I would love to ditch my MBP to just plug an iPad into a TB3 monitor and get a mouse, keyboard, drawing tablet, and charging with 1 wire. I can get close to that with a MBP. The only downsides are a MBP is heavier for mobile use and I'd have to buy an expensive tablet.

Do iPads support mouse (trackpads) yet? That would be huge.

Exactly this is needed as well as being able to run full XCode and VS Code

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by jaegerpicker »

cm2187 wrote: post #132
jaegerpicker wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on what you want to output. Webapps? Nothing, it already has all you need, especially if you are willing to use a remote server that you are ssh'ed into but you don't NEED that. For native compiled code and apps? Apple needs to release a Xcode compiler and a developer mode that lets you run self-signed binaries on the hardware.

If you develop anything for the web, don't you need to check how it renders on other browsers?

I don't do a ton of web front end work and what front end work I do is pretty simple. I'm 99% a native mobile developer and IoT C++/Python developer. Usually mobile safari is good enough for me.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by gnicholas »

The 11" cellular model weighs the same as the 11" wifi model. But the 12.9" cellular model weighs 2 grams more than the 12.9" wifi model.

Anyone know why this would be? Obviously not a big deal — just curiosity.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by kirykl »

OskarS wrote: post #43

There's a point in the press conference where the presenter went "And you can scroll the UI as fast as you want, and it doesn't lag! We have 8 cores in our CPU!" (or something: not literal transcription) and the entire audience clapped. That's about as serious an indictment of the competence of the software development industry as I can imagine. Edit: to clarify: the line is "It's a real PSD... it's over 3 gigs, it's…

UI speed has always been a feature. At one point in Mac OS X, finder window resizing was very laggy.

I think Steve even did a keynote demo of fluid finder window resizing during 10.2 release.

reference: https://macosx.com/threads/why-is-window-resizing-so-slow-st...

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by OskarS »

stupidbird wrote: post #150
OskarS wrote: post #43

There's a point in the press conference where the presenter went "And you can scroll the UI as fast as you want, and it doesn't lag! We have 8 cores in our CPU!" (or something: not literal transcription) and the entire audience clapped. That's about as serious an indictment of the competence of the software development industry as I can imagine. Edit: to clarify: the line is "It's a real PSD... it's over 3 gigs, it's…

Scrolling through layers in photoshop doesn't necessarily just scroll a list though, it's also actively selecting the content of those layers... which can be very complex (I didn't watch the demo so I'm not entirely sure of the specific scrolling context). You're dealing with filters, transparencies, hand-drawn paths, masking, linked files, embedded files — there's a wide realm of potential data and complexity. If yo…

If you want to test the mettle of a computer, try opening a large Photoshop file and doing anything in it.

This, right here, is why it's an indictment of the software industry. It SHOULDN'T be impressive that Photoshop doesn't lag. When she said that line, the entire audience should have shrugged and said to themselves "Of course you can zoom into an image in Photoshop. It's 2018. What's the big deal?"

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by abalone »

ziftface wrote: post #115
abalone wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USB-C is considerably bigger than Lightning while offering arguably no major benefit for an almost entirely wireless device. Think size doesn’t really matter that much? The iPhone XR actually pushes the lightning port down slightly off center to make room for the LCD display. The XR would literally be impossible to make with USB-C.

The obvious benefit for adopting USB-C is compatibility with other devices. It seems strange to me that almost all new mobile devices from almost all manufacturers (including some from apple) are converging on a single port while apple's best-selling product uses an incompatible port. I get there are manufacturing issues, but I think eventually they'll have to be solved somehow. Maybe no charging port and just rely o…

> The obvious benefit for adopting USB-C is compatibility with other devices.

Not an obvious benefit for a largely wireless device. For the vast vast majority of people it’s only used for charging and that’s moving to wireless too.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by minimaxir »

lostgame wrote: post #74
minimaxir wrote: post #3

Very impressive demos, but unfortunately the number of apps that can make full use of the increased power is still limited. A common complaint I saw during the presentation was the emphasis of the A12X for gaming, but Apple is still very bad at incentivizing developers to make games with premium experiences and prices (to say nothing of the lack of an official gaming controller!) Also, the new Apple Pencil will only…

>> (to say nothing of the lack of an official gaming controller!) Apple themselves does not publish an 'official' gaming controller, no, instead they offer a number of third-party controllers at a quite nice build quality at prices that are comparable to buying a new PS4/XBOX controller: https://www.apple.com/shop/accessories/all-accessories/toys-...

That's true; I do have a Steelseries Nimbus, although it feels a bit jank compared to console controllers from other companies.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by macintux »

reacharavindh wrote: post #139

Do you all use iPad for serious work? Curious what apps you use? Other than Apple Notes(with Apple Pencil), and watching NetFlix, I dont make good use of it. I'd love to get some recommendation for useful apps to try...

The key feature that drove me to buy the 12.9" iPad Pro last year was the ability to read and mark up PDFs without having to constantly zoom/move it around. Old eyes.

I also use it to create routes for road trips for my Jeep club: it's really nice to have my GPS app and a satellite view side by side as I look for interesting back roads.

In short: I bought a Ferrari and use it like a Civic.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by bdcravens »

reacharavindh wrote: post #139

Do you all use iPad for serious work? Curious what apps you use? Other than Apple Notes(with Apple Pencil), and watching NetFlix, I dont make good use of it. I'd love to get some recommendation for useful apps to try...

I've used it at conferences and occasionally out and about when I need a machine with access to tools (browser, Slack, etc) but I know I won't be doing any development.
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