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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by dragonwriter »

andrewaylett wrote: post #118
vxNsr wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also, the new Apple Pencil will only work with the new iPads; it's not compatible with previous Pros: https://www.apple.com/apple-pencil/ Because the older pros don't have a way to charge it. Which is to me another one of those ingenious but now obvious design choices, I know the sGNote series has "wireless" charging for their stylus, but it needs to go into the device to be charged, this is so much cooler because…

Unless the Note series has changes dramatically, which is always possible -- I just ditched my Note 3 -- they're using passive Wacom pens. No charging necessary, the internal slot is purely for storage.

This was definitely still true through the Note 8; but the Note 9 S-Pen has an onboard battery (mostly, I think, for the remote functionality; the core stylus functionality might use the same tech as before.)

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Post by jiaweihli »

I bought an iPad Pro (12.9") in mid 2017, and am already seeing significant slowdown. With 4-5 apps open, it lags when trying to scroll the home screen. I frequently need to kill open apps by going into the app switcher.

When I bought a new iPhone, the difference was night and day. I regularly leave 30+ apps open without worrying about lag.

Not sure why the iPad Pro struggles so much with multitasking, but it's kind of turned me off from buying another.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by xienze »

bendavis381 wrote: post #78

Can someone more educated on the subject please explain to me what would be required to turn this into a proper development machine? I'm asking about what iOS changes would be needed, rather than opinions about the physical aspects of it like form factor.

The main issue in my opinion is the lack of mouse support. Not saying the OS needs to support mice throughout the UI but it would be great to be able to use one just with a remote desktop app, for instance.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by andrewpi »

andrewaylett wrote: post #118
vxNsr wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also, the new Apple Pencil will only work with the new iPads; it's not compatible with previous Pros: https://www.apple.com/apple-pencil/ Because the older pros don't have a way to charge it. Which is to me another one of those ingenious but now obvious design choices, I know the sGNote series has "wireless" charging for their stylus, but it needs to go into the device to be charged, this is so much cooler because…

Unless the Note series has changes dramatically, which is always possible -- I just ditched my Note 3 -- they're using passive Wacom pens. No charging necessary, the internal slot is purely for storage.

The Note9 added bluetooth to the S Pen (you can use it as a remote camera shutter now), and it charges inductively when it's inside the phone.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by Pulcinella »

This is a repost of: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18338048

I was hoping we would see XCode for the iPad. The Swift Playgrounds app really does not cut it.The Swift Playgrounds app really hasn’t gotten any love[1] since it was first introduced. You can actually import UIKit and the other frameworks and compile them on the iPad but this is pretty much undocumentated. The preview views are tremendously buggy (really the whole app is) and there is all sorts of hidden debug stuff running in the background[2] that slows down performance. Everything has to be in a single file so doing anything moderately complicated is a pain, the editor is buggy and will sometimes highlight just the last three letters of a word, and there is no Interface Builder[3]. I would love a real XCode.

[1]There have been new playgrounds added (e.g. “Learn to Code with Swift”) but the app itself really hasn’t been changed at all. The same bugs have been present for years. And they aren’t obscur either. You will run into editor bugs within the first 5 minutes.

[2] The debug stuff is to help facilitate the different playgrounds, but doesn’t really provide any benefit to someone coding in a blank file outside of a playground. You can’t turn it off within the app.

[3] I know a lot of people don’t like IB, but it’s great for throwing together simple apps quickly. It’s odd that it is absent from the official apple App but Pythonista, an app made by one person, has an visual interface editor.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by addedlovely »

maxxxxx wrote: post #21

That site is horrible. First it scrolls horizontally and then it switches to vertical towards the end. Why do "designers" have to reinvent simple things again and again? Is there nothing better to do?

Horizontal scrolling...you try it once because you think it might be cool - then you realise somethings are an archetype that shouldn't be played with, like vertical scrolling websites.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by reustle »

davemp wrote: post #133

It's such a shame that there's no thunderbolt 3 in the iPad Pro. I would love to ditch my MBP to just plug an iPad into a TB3 monitor and get a mouse, keyboard, drawing tablet, and charging with 1 wire. I can get close to that with a MBP. The only downsides are a MBP is heavier for mobile use and I'd have to buy an expensive tablet.

Do iPads support mouse (trackpads) yet? That would be huge.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by lechiffre10 »

saagarjha wrote: post #105
lechiffre10 wrote: post #37

Swiping all the way down the screen to unlock with FaceID is going to be a big burden on the Ipad Pro. Less of a burden on the iPhone series for obvious reasons but really? Why not let people swipe up anywhere on the screen to unlock FaceID.

Don’t you swipe up to unlock with Face ID?

Yea i meant having to swipe up from the bottom of the screen

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by macintux »

jiaweihli wrote: post #142

I bought an iPad Pro (12.9") in mid 2017, and am already seeing significant slowdown. With 4-5 apps open, it lags when trying to scroll the home screen. I frequently need to kill open apps by going into the app switcher. When I bought a new iPhone, the difference was night and day. I regularly leave 30+ apps open without worrying about lag. Not sure why the iPad Pro struggles so much with multitasking, but it's kind…

You might try a fresh install. I have the same iPad, and haven't seen behavior like that.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by stupidbird »

OskarS wrote: post #43

There's a point in the press conference where the presenter went "And you can scroll the UI as fast as you want, and it doesn't lag! We have 8 cores in our CPU!" (or something: not literal transcription) and the entire audience clapped. That's about as serious an indictment of the competence of the software development industry as I can imagine. Edit: to clarify: the line is "It's a real PSD... it's over 3 gigs, it's…

Scrolling through layers in photoshop doesn't necessarily just scroll a list though, it's also actively selecting the content of those layers... which can be very complex (I didn't watch the demo so I'm not entirely sure of the specific scrolling context).

You're dealing with filters, transparencies, hand-drawn paths, masking, linked files, embedded files — there's a wide realm of potential data and complexity.

If you want to test the mettle of a computer, try opening a large Photoshop file and doing anything in it.

People who use Photoshop regularly totally understand the validity of that quick demo.

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