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Re: Micro.blog

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Post by oddevan »

randomerr wrote: post #110

Maybe its just me but it seems like a love child of Diaspora and StatusNet (formally Laconica) that you have to pay for. Oddly enough, the pay element is the only really attractive element right now. At least that way I know I know I will not have advertisements all over the place. Still $5 dollars seems steep. For that I could just host my own microblog theme on WordPress and make my own community.

You don't even need to make your own community. The $5/month is for hosting; if you host your blog yourself (they recommend WordPress), then it's free.

And given the broad sentiment expressed in these comments, they could do a MUCH better job communicating this.

Re: Micro.blog

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Post by randoramax »

randomerr wrote: post #110

Maybe its just me but it seems like a love child of Diaspora and StatusNet (formally Laconica) that you have to pay for. Oddly enough, the pay element is the only really attractive element right now. At least that way I know I know I will not have advertisements all over the place. Still $5 dollars seems steep. For that I could just host my own microblog theme on WordPress and make my own community.

Protocol and reference implementation is open source, check getknown.org and other indieweb apps http://help.micro.blog/2017/indiewebcamp/

Re: Micro.blog

#113

Post by theWheez »

dmitripopov wrote: post #109

> Today's social networks are broken. Ads are everywhere. Hate and harassment are too common. Fake news spreads unchecked. This is a downside of "social" part of "social media". To avoid this you have to impose regulations and it will break the "social" part, making it a regular media. The perfect solution is yet to be found.

Is there some sort of mechanism or architecture that would facilitate more organic, non-hateful communication? It seems most platforms are geared toward dropping you into an echo chamber, which is probably closely tied to user retention. Is there a way to change those alignments, so that retention is high but without an echo chamber? Or is that just baked into human nature?

Re: Micro.blog

#114

Post by virmundi »

theWheez wrote: post #113
dmitripopov wrote: post #109

> Today's social networks are broken. Ads are everywhere. Hate and harassment are too common. Fake news spreads unchecked. This is a downside of "social" part of "social media". To avoid this you have to impose regulations and it will break the "social" part, making it a regular media. The perfect solution is yet to be found.

Is there some sort of mechanism or architecture that would facilitate more organic, non-hateful communication? It seems most platforms are geared toward dropping you into an echo chamber, which is probably closely tied to user retention. Is there a way to change those alignments, so that retention is high but without an echo chamber? Or is that just baked into human nature?

The only way to maybe prevent some of the echo chamber is to have no smart suggestions. Just show things as they occur. Don't say, "Oh, you're a leftist. You'll love this SJW diatribe". Same thing for the right. Same thing for pretty much every combination. As soon as the technology brings automated curation, or even curation in general, you've laid the ground works for an echo chamber.

Re: Micro.blog

#115

Post by [deleted] »

theWheez wrote: post #113
dmitripopov wrote: post #109

> Today's social networks are broken. Ads are everywhere. Hate and harassment are too common. Fake news spreads unchecked. This is a downside of "social" part of "social media". To avoid this you have to impose regulations and it will break the "social" part, making it a regular media. The perfect solution is yet to be found.

Is there some sort of mechanism or architecture that would facilitate more organic, non-hateful communication? It seems most platforms are geared toward dropping you into an echo chamber, which is probably closely tied to user retention. Is there a way to change those alignments, so that retention is high but without an echo chamber? Or is that just baked into human nature?

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Re: Micro.blog

#116

Post by teleclimber »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #63
Aissen wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's only true as long as every *.micro.blog subdomain is properly isolated, and you can't access cookies/sessions from micro.blog (e.g post/comment as someone else, if there's no CSRF token). I haven't checked, but hopefully it's the case here. See: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/95369/persisten...

Different subdomains are different origins. So it's safe.

Not quite. There are gotchas:

https://blog.github.com/2013-04-09-yummy-cookies-across-doma...

Re: Micro.blog

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Post by MaxBarraclough »

eksemplar wrote: post #15
awb wrote: post #2

> Today's social networks are broken. Hate and harassment are too common. Fake news spreads unchecked. How will micro.blog be different? Apps start small and friendly, but if you invite everyone in you'll have the same issues unless you have a technology or policy strategy that differs from the current social networks. Would love to see this succeed, but need more details before I buy in.

It’s not really, is it? I think the concept is great, but what’s really needed is ownership and self hosted blogs made easier than they are now. + a popular index. I mean, a centralized blogging service that lets you customise your style sheet a little is basically just MySpace.

Completely agree. The 'indie web' folks have this right.

Re: Micro.blog

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Post by velcrovan »

awb wrote: post #2

> Today's social networks are broken. Hate and harassment are too common. Fake news spreads unchecked. How will micro.blog be different? Apps start small and friendly, but if you invite everyone in you'll have the same issues unless you have a technology or policy strategy that differs from the current social networks. Would love to see this succeed, but need more details before I buy in.

Maybe you missed some of these details: http://help.micro.blog/2018/twitter-differences/

Re: Micro.blog

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Post by chrissnell »

yitchelle wrote: post #50
awb wrote: post #2

> Today's social networks are broken. Hate and harassment are too common. Fake news spreads unchecked. How will micro.blog be different? Apps start small and friendly, but if you invite everyone in you'll have the same issues unless you have a technology or policy strategy that differs from the current social networks. Would love to see this succeed, but need more details before I buy in.

Would really love to hear how they plan to contain the hate and harassment, to stop the fake news. And then how they will scale that solution when the number of users start to increase. Human community managers are great but their numbers will also have to increase as amount of users increases as well. This is why I have so much respect for @dang and his colleagues for managing HN.

I never trust any site that says it wants to eliminate hate and harassment. I've seen this time and time again on forums, social media, BBSes back in the day, etc. It always devolves into French Revolution-style groupthink and the elimination of any person who expresses or supports a contrarian viewpoint.

No thanks, micro.blog. I'm looking for an IPFS-style, uncensorable free speech platform.

Re: Micro.blog

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Post by mcguire »

prepend wrote: post #36
deyan wrote: post #22

Lots of negativity here, as is unfortunately typical at HN far too often these days. Especially given that this project is what HN is supposed to be about - done by a lone hacker with help from volunteers, trying to create a different and hopefully better social media. Sure, it may or may not work, it has all sorts of pros and cons, but I’d vote for being open-minded and constructive rather than cynical from the get…

I think it’s a neat idea and seems to be what blogger was way back in the day. $5/month is completely unreasonable as a github pages account is free and Dropbox/OneDrive is $8/month. This would be a really neat oss project. And I’m sure some people will find this useful, but seems like not the solution to social media problems. The only way I would think this is good is if it donates $4.95/month to some sort of simpl…

Github pages and Dropbox don't allow for comments and conversations, right?
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