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Re: Micro.blog

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Post by wowamit »

arendtio wrote: post #73
yRetsyM wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried to find myself, but there is a bit more detail on the help site which isn't very well linked to: http://help.micro.blog

Thanks. After searching a bit more, I found the page about Feeds [1], and while it seems to touch the topic, it is rather shallow. A specific example is given on the IFTTT [2] page, but I am unsure if that is the best way to achieve RSS cross postings on micro.blog. [1]: https://help.micro.blog/2017/api-feeds/ [2]: https://help.micro.blog/2018/ifttt/

API feeds is to pull data from Micro.blog - for example replies. To enable cross posting from your existing blog, a setting can be enabled. From the help page on getting started [1]

> "If you already have a blog, such as one based on WordPress, connect it to Micro.blog by adding the feed URL to your account under Account → “Edit Feeds”."

[1]: https://help.micro.blog/2017/getting-started/

Re: Micro.blog

#82

Post by drngdds »

alexchamberlain wrote: post #37
kabacha wrote: post #7

Why not Federation (diaspora, friendica, hubzilla) or Fediverse (mastodon, pleroma)? This seems like an rss feed subscription rather than social network attempt. Personally I love diaspora as it's designed around discoverability - following tags, people define themselves with tags etc. While Fediverse, activity pub etc. are great they are full of holes when it comes to discovery an actual social content. Comments are…

Playing devil's advocate: why not centralisation? Or - better IMHO - why federation?

Twitter and Facebook have shown that giving some huge corporation arbitrary power over a social network is not a good idea. Centralization creates network effects, which make it so that the owners can basically do whatever they want without losing users.

Federation largely avoids this problem. If the owner of my Mastodon instance starts doing stuff I don't like, I can switch to a different one or start my own and still interact with all the same people. (Hell, if the developers start doing stuff I don't like, I can even fork it or switch to an alternative program like Pleroma that uses the same protocol.)

Re: Micro.blog

#83

Post by esalogika »

SyneRyder wrote: post #27
ddtaylor wrote: post #20

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How much does it cost?

It's free if you just want to reserve a username and add an RSS feed from your own website - which can be either full articles (which will appear in Micro.Blog as a title & link), or short 280 char posts. You can reply to posts with a free account too. ------- EDIT: Probably easier if for the other plans I just post the site's own info: New Microblog — $5/month We'll create and host a microblog for you at username.mi…

Doesn't adding an rss feed from own website still cost 2$ pm?

Re: Micro.blog

#84

Post by bun_at_work »

danso wrote: post #72
deyan wrote: post #22

Lots of negativity here, as is unfortunately typical at HN far too often these days. Especially given that this project is what HN is supposed to be about - done by a lone hacker with help from volunteers, trying to create a different and hopefully better social media. Sure, it may or may not work, it has all sorts of pros and cons, but I’d vote for being open-minded and constructive rather than cynical from the get…

When the very first lines on a homepage are: > Today's social networks are broken. Ads are everywhere. Hate and harassment are too common. Fake news spreads unchecked. -- the author has set themselves up for high and lofty expectations. Especially for a paid service.

By making it a paid service, the author effectively kills two of those issues straight away - No ads and reduced fake news issues.

The ads claim is obvious, they don't host ads because they don't need the revenue. However, that fake news is defeated is less obvious. Fake news largely spreads on free platforms by bot armies, which need to pay $5/mo per bot, making them highly expensive and reducing the likelihood they exist there at all. People will still post and shill shit that is fake, but it's less of a problem in a social network if only the minority who actually buy into the fake news or other garbage are spreading it.

Re: Micro.blog

#85

Post by [deleted] »

yitchelle wrote: post #50
awb wrote: post #2

> Today's social networks are broken. Hate and harassment are too common. Fake news spreads unchecked. How will micro.blog be different? Apps start small and friendly, but if you invite everyone in you'll have the same issues unless you have a technology or policy strategy that differs from the current social networks. Would love to see this succeed, but need more details before I buy in.

Would really love to hear how they plan to contain the hate and harassment, to stop the fake news. And then how they will scale that solution when the number of users start to increase. Human community managers are great but their numbers will also have to increase as amount of users increases as well. This is why I have so much respect for @dang and his colleagues for managing HN.

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Re: Micro.blog

#86

Post by wowamit »

bun_at_work wrote: post #84
danso wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When the very first lines on a homepage are: > Today's social networks are broken. Ads are everywhere. Hate and harassment are too common. Fake news spreads unchecked. -- the author has set themselves up for high and lofty expectations. Especially for a paid service.

By making it a paid service, the author effectively kills two of those issues straight away - No ads and reduced fake news issues. The ads claim is obvious, they don't host ads because they don't need the revenue. However, that fake news is defeated is less obvious. Fake news largely spreads on free platforms by bot armies, which need to pay $5/mo per bot, making them highly expensive and reducing the likelihood they…

In addition, there are no global timelines or auto-generated trends or retweets at this point. There is Discover feed [1] which is manually curated. So, in case you do see the fake or spam posts, that would be primarily because you follow the accounts. There are also mechanisms to block users which should address the replies spams.

Edit: Added the link to discover feed, accessible without an account too.

[1]: https://micro.blog/discover

Re: Micro.blog

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Post by jt2190 »

If you’re interested in Manton Reece’s thinking and work on Micro.blog over time, he frequently talks about it on the the Core Intuition podcast he co-hosts with Daniel Jalkut: https://coreint.org

Re: Micro.blog

#88

Post by ericintheloft2 »

Neat thing. Question: Why not have it publically open and free, but pay to post? Or at least have some of it open, like a limit number of post visible or something like that - for free. Because right now, as a visitor, I'm far from sure I want to use this at all, I know too little about what it's like to actually use it.

Re: Micro.blog

#89

Post by SyneRyder »

esalogika wrote: post #83
SyneRyder wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's free if you just want to reserve a username and add an RSS feed from your own website - which can be either full articles (which will appear in Micro.Blog as a title & link), or short 280 char posts. You can reply to posts with a free account too. ------- EDIT: Probably easier if for the other plans I just post the site's own info: New Microblog — $5/month We'll create and host a microblog for you at username.mi…

Doesn't adding an rss feed from own website still cost 2$ pm?

Nope, the $2 is just if you also want it to cross post your RSS out to Twitter, Medium et al. If you only want it to go into Micro.Blog, that's free. The pricing page makes it a bit clearer:

http://help.micro.blog/2018/pricing/

Basics: free

* Your own Micro.blog username.

* Replies to other posts, stored on Micro.blog.

* Add an external blog such as WordPress for posting.

* Use the iOS and Mac apps to browse the timeline or post to supported external blogs.

* No Micro.blog-hosted blog.

* No page at username.micro.blog.

Re: Micro.blog

#90

Post by notyourday »

Griffinsauce wrote: post #67
stedaniels wrote: post #38

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You reckon you could build and run this as a service for $0.05 a user per month? Whilst perhaps scraping profit? Care to share some of your own products, I'm keen to see how sustainable your business models are.

Sustainability and viability are not linked.

Of course they are. There's no viable project or service that is not sustainable.
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