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The unsolved murder of an unusual billionaire

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Re: The unsolved murder of an unusual billionaire

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It is indeed surprising because the profit motive is there and it is not limited to just rival billionaires. Any random guy with enough capital can short the company stock and then place a hit on the CEO. I would expect stuff like that to happen super often but I don't think I have even heard of one real case like this.

Can you explain that trade precisely? Like with example orders/prices? I’d also be curious about how one gets reliable hitmen & deniability and the like.

Bad skynet.

Re: The unsolved murder of an unusual billionaire

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the only thing holding you back from murder lack of funds? If not, why do you think billionaires are any different?

If I had near infinite funding + the opportunity to be above the law, I'd definitely be tempted to act as some sort of vigilante.

Bill Gates realized he could save a lot more kids from the heartache of losing their parents by curing malaria in millions permanently, instead of stopping the Joker from robbing individuals a few nights a week.

Re: The unsolved murder of an unusual billionaire

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I am kind of surprised billionaires and CEOs don't order each others' killings more often. I was doing homework one night and the building next door's top 2 floors were blown up because some banker had a hit placed on his head. So perhaps I have pretty low expectations on what powerful people without morals can do.

A billionaire has a lot to lose if he ever gets caught. Why risk even a small chance of spending the rest of your life in prison with the common criminals you detest so much? Unless the stakes are extremely high, it's better to forget about the few tens of millions you didn't make and just chill in your yacht.

Meanwhile, the modern legal system offers a much better way to destroy your rivals, take their money, and publicly humiliate them if that's what your ego demands. It suits a billionaire's style to send lawyers, not hitmen.

Re: The unsolved murder of an unusual billionaire

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post #21
post #11

I am kind of surprised billionaires and CEOs don't order each others' killings more often. I was doing homework one night and the building next door's top 2 floors were blown up because some banker had a hit placed on his head. So perhaps I have pretty low expectations on what powerful people without morals can do.

It is indeed surprising because the profit motive is there and it is not limited to just rival billionaires. Any random guy with enough capital can short the company stock and then place a hit on the CEO. I would expect stuff like that to happen super often but I don't think I have even heard of one real case like this.

I would expect stuff like that to happen super often but I don't think I have even heard of one real case like this.

At the risk of stating the obvious: did this realization that reality fails to match your predictions cause you to question your model or your predictions?

Re: The unsolved murder of an unusual billionaire

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post #11

I am kind of surprised billionaires and CEOs don't order each others' killings more often. I was doing homework one night and the building next door's top 2 floors were blown up because some banker had a hit placed on his head. So perhaps I have pretty low expectations on what powerful people without morals can do.

Once you're a billionaire, maybe the Nash equilibrium suggests that you don't go too far to upset the cart for other billionaires.

If I ever become one, I'll make sure to come back to this post and let you know what's up.

Re: The unsolved murder of an unusual billionaire

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Explain what trade? If the CEO dies the stock will go down due to the uncertainty of the future for the company.

Right. Give me literally the orders you put in, with a timeline for the hit. Then explain the price points, liquid capital & risk stats you need to make a particular profit. This is basic stuff for actual short sell trades so I presume it is easy to produce in the “hit a CEO” fund space.

I'm no trader, so I couldn't confidently craft a good strategy to exploit an opportunity even if there was a good one. How about you explain why you don't expect this to be workable instead?

Re: The unsolved murder of an unusual billionaire

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post #11

I am kind of surprised billionaires and CEOs don't order each others' killings more often. I was doing homework one night and the building next door's top 2 floors were blown up because some banker had a hit placed on his head. So perhaps I have pretty low expectations on what powerful people without morals can do.

My observation is that elites tend towards keeping around multiple forms of mutual blackmail in their pockets so that they stay in a cease-fire arrangement: e.g. all the conspiracy/cult stories where everyone is made an equal participant in some crime or disturbing ritual.

This allows them to avoid simply killing each other(too risky) while still allowing credible threats to power, and gatekeeping contenders who won't play by the same rules. "Civil" society is an expression that alludes to making that ruleset ethically responsible and cooling down the competition. It's tested constantly by anyone who wants to get ahead.

The behavior is everywhere once you look: If you have a poorly regulated sport, match fixing, cheating, dangerous play, and exclusionary collusion all become rampant. If you have a labor force with few protections and high competition, they start to climb over each other to pump up their image. And when organized crime structures break down, violence erupts.

Democratic structures, coalition-building, collective bargaining, and other tactics that negotiate rights and protections solve most of these issues temporarily, at least until a majority are satisfied enough to stop participating, by which time someone ambitious will have found a new angle for changing the rules.

If it feels like this era is more unstable or more violent, it's because there are some very broad changes hitting. Disruption worked.

Re: The unsolved murder of an unusual billionaire

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Off topic but this cover is just so poorly designed. https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i7R8Z2i.mox...

Looks like a "Brutalist" design, which is becoming more popular. A sort of reaction against standardized design patterns (Material, iOS). some examples here: http://brutalistwebsites.com/

Re: The unsolved murder of an unusual billionaire

#39
post #11

I am kind of surprised billionaires and CEOs don't order each others' killings more often. I was doing homework one night and the building next door's top 2 floors were blown up because some banker had a hit placed on his head. So perhaps I have pretty low expectations on what powerful people without morals can do.

Probably because they are not the comic book villains that Hollywood routinely portrays them as.

Re: The unsolved murder of an unusual billionaire

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I wonder if he had spent more money on security, drivers, personal assistants, etc., whether that would have protected them more from unsavory people in their lives and these extra staff might have given the police more leads in the case. And why wouldn’t they have invested in better security and monitoring of their home? Crazy.
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