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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by jayalpha »

scarecrowbob wrote: post #107
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #42

I did this. In the following sequence, over a few years, and am now to step 5: 1. Turn off notifications for the Facebook app on your phone; 2. Turn off notifications for the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps on your phone; 3. Delete the Facebook app from your phone; 4. Delete the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps from your phone; and finally 5. Log out of Facebook on your desktop. It took me…

I wrote a script: # ~/unfuckfacbook.sh #!/bin/bash sed -i '' s/'^127.0.0.1 facebook.com'/'#127.0.0.1 facebook.com'/ /etc/hosts sed -i '' s/'^127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com'/'#127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com'/ /etc/hosts sed -i '' s/'^127.0.0.1 m.facebook.com'/'#127.0.0.1 m.facebook.com'/ /etc/hosts sleep 30 say "Hey asshole, get off Facebook" sleep 30 ~/fuckfacbook.sh ~/fuckfacbook.sh just undoes the hosts file work It helppe…

How does this work? I get an error?

sed: can't read s/^127.0.0.1 f....

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by aluminussoma »

Camillo wrote: post #246
rchaud wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This came up (albeit regarding Instagram ads) at a Seattle conference I was at a couple of weeks ago. It was during a talk about the future of video ads. An FB engineer was one of the panelists, so an audience member relayed a story of him having a conversation about a product with a friend, and then seeing an ad for that exact product in his Instagram timeline.

Well, what was the response?

This is the official Facebook response on using your microphone: https://newsroom.fb.com/news/h/facebook-does-not-use-your-ph...

According to that, they do not listen for ads.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by nothis »

samfisher83 wrote: post #52

They are just going from FB to Instagram: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/22/teens-abandoning-facebook-st... FB can shift its model to becoming like priceline. Just try to buy up all the social networks. For example most travel site you probably use are owned by priceline. The same way Facebook could maybe buy up other social networks.

>They are just going from FB to Instagram

It's easy to get cynical about this but what I like about Instagram as opposed to facebook is that it's superficial by design. That makes it way less of a "thing".

It doesn't pretend like it truly "manages your social life" like facebook does, it's just funny pictures your extroverted friend posts. Instagram stories are gone after 24 hours. They're temporal. I know people who post 10 or 20 things a day on stories and maybe a pic here and there every couple of weeks otherwise.

Similarly, WhatsApp is SMS. SMS running through facebook but it's not very organized, either. My friend deleted WhatsApp, now we text via SMS and I see no difference. A group I was part of decided to use Telegram, so I just made a Telegram account, no friction whatsoever, there's no reason to feel like you're leaving something behind. People in Europe use it because mobile internet is way cheaper than paying for SMS since a text message via mobile internet is like a couple of bytes of traffic. Same with images. Group chat is nice. But it's all not very... connected.

It doesn't really make a profile, old messages are basically just an archive that nobody bothers to look through. I'm aware that facebook probably runs every machine learning algorithm ever invented through that data but from a user's perspective, it's way less of a "world", it's just one tool to share messages/pictures. It's not your life. Social networks aren't "just facebook" anymore and they're way less centralized that way.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by arooni »

In life you are either a consumer or a producer. Consumption is the silent killer that's killed more dreams than any other force in history.

Relavent: https://www.davidparkinson.com/beware-consumption-the-silent...

Also relavent: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/news-feed-eradicat... [I use this and swear by it... destroys your news feed when you do login to facebook]

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by mygo »

irrational wrote: post #224

I have teenagers and college-age kids and I'm not surprised in the least. They openly consider Facebook to be a platform for old people. They seem to have moved to more of a distributed social media system. That is, they don't seem to have a central place where they communicate with friends. They seem to move between texts, facetime, tumblr, instagram, phone calls (!), etc. in a fluid manner. Anything except for Face…

> They seem to move between texts, facetime, tumblr, instagram, phone calls (!), etc. in a fluid manner.

Aah. Just like how we moved from text, the mall, AIM, Yahoo!, CokeMusic/Habbohotel, MySpace, and phone calls (!), etc. in a fluid manner.

everything changes, and yet nothing changes

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by tempestn »

erickhill wrote: post #380
duxup wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't even know what Twitter is for except mutual high fives over the most superficial "look at me" memeish stuff. It's worse than facebook as far as the "get attention" vibe. Granted all social media is about getting attention, and I don't think there is anything wrong with it necessarily. Attention is nice, there is good reason for it, but when the message is so tailored to just that and there isn't anything else…

It took me about 10 years to finally "get Twitter". I used to use it for professional reasons, posting what I considered relevant content. For the most part no one really cared. The engagement was almost always nil. Sort of like saying something intelligent, out of the blue, to a crowded stadium of people doing the same thing. Then, 2 years ago I created a new account that ONLY focused on a personal hobby of mine: re…

I think you're really on to something here. The details are different, but it reminds me of how I use social media.

Most of my engagement consists of a private Slack groups with groups of friends who enjoy discussing various topics. (And within these groups I tend to subscribe to only the channels that I find more interesting.) Similarly, on Instagram I have one account where I follow a group of close friends I've mostly had since high school, and another where I mostly follow a bunch of car related channels I like. Having that separation and ability to go and seek out a specific kind of content is fantastic. (As opposed to just being subjected to a fire hose "feed" of whatever an algorithm thinks will be engaging.)

Actually, I resisted RSS in the past for much the same reason. Even though you curate the feed, I vastly preferred having a bookmarks folder of blogs and other sites I followed, which I could then pick and choose from to suit my mood, than to have it all served up in a reader.

It would be nice to see things move more in this direction. For example, the default Facebook view, rather than a general news feed, could be a set of groups you belong to, along with ad-hoc groups of interconnected contacts, encouraging you to pick what genre of updates or conversations suits your current mood. Even then I don't know if it would be siloed enough to capture the same benefits, but it would be a step in the right direction I think.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by nabla9 »

mehblahwhatevs wrote: post #219
nabla9 wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is incorrect. Facebook already needs a permissions from multiple regulators if it attempts to buy competitor – not just from US regulators. WhatsApp and Instagram acquisitions needed approvals from EU before they could continue.

> WhatsApp and Instagram acquisitions needed approvals from EU before they could continue. What would it mean for a US based company if they decided to acquire two other US based companies and US regulators approved it, but EU regulators didn't? What would happen if the company went forward with the acquisition anyway?

They will have to satisfy regulators from all major regions where they want to operate. Non-compliance results financial, or criminal penalties or not being allowed to operate in EU.

In theory FB could just agree with EU that they will cease all operations in EU and leave in peace, but that would effectively kill FB over long term. Competitors would crush them. Imagine a mobile carrier who can't make calls to EU or email provider who can't sent or receive calls from EU. FB is in the same situation. It's a social network. Value for the users comes from connections.

Every international company negotiates some kind of deal if they want to stay international.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by [deleted] »

arooni wrote: post #425

In life you are either a consumer or a producer. Consumption is the silent killer that's killed more dreams than any other force in history. Relavent: https://www.davidparkinson.com/beware-consumption-the-silent... Also relavent: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/news-feed-eradicat... [I use this and swear by it... destroys your news feed when you do login to facebook]

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by nothis »

irrational wrote: post #224

I have teenagers and college-age kids and I'm not surprised in the least. They openly consider Facebook to be a platform for old people. They seem to have moved to more of a distributed social media system. That is, they don't seem to have a central place where they communicate with friends. They seem to move between texts, facetime, tumblr, instagram, phone calls (!), etc. in a fluid manner. Anything except for Face…

People always complain about younger people not getting it, but to me this sounds like a new generation of internet users actively self-regulating their social media use.
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