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Recaptcha v3: new way to stop bots

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Re: Recaptcha v3: new way to stop bots

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Post by brianolson »

Slightly creepy, they want to track users around your site to see if they go page to page like a human or like a bot. (Instead of just checking before form-submit or some other action.) But if you already have Google Analytics you're probably not giving up any more information by adding this.

Re: Recaptcha v3: new way to stop bots

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Post by merb »

_asummers wrote: post #2

Hopefully having an ad blocker (uMatrix) doesn't cause it to flag the user like reCAPTCHA v2 does on every single site I go to. I have had to click way too many cars and street signs at this point.

especially on firefox. currently I tested ublock on chrome and I was done after the first image. on firefox however with ublock I sometimes needed to try it 2-3 times until it worked.

Re: Recaptcha v3: new way to stop bots

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Post by jetpks »

_asummers wrote: post #2

Hopefully having an ad blocker (uMatrix) doesn't cause it to flag the user like reCAPTCHA v2 does on every single site I go to. I have had to click way too many cars and street signs at this point.

It's in Google's interest to make using an ad blocker as painful as possible.

Re: Recaptcha v3: new way to stop bots

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Post by ucaetano »

_asummers wrote: post #2

Hopefully having an ad blocker (uMatrix) doesn't cause it to flag the user like reCAPTCHA v2 does on every single site I go to. I have had to click way too many cars and street signs at this point.

Probably WAI.

What is the incentive for the site owner to provide a streamlined experience to an user that will consume resources but intentionally prevent monetization?

Not sure I agree with it, but it is obvious to expect that.

Re: Recaptcha v3: new way to stop bots

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Post by WorldMaker »

The "deep telemetry" nature of this doesn't sound like a good idea. It's already been annoying with v2 thinking that I clicked a checkbox "too fast" to be human, to worry about every action taken in a site/app being compared to some weird AI model for "humanity".

That's even before other panopticon questions of who all this added telemetry even benefits.

Re: Recaptcha v3: new way to stop bots

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Post by fotbr »

brianolson wrote: post #3

Slightly creepy, they want to track users around your site to see if they go page to page like a human or like a bot. (Instead of just checking before form-submit or some other action.) But if you already have Google Analytics you're probably not giving up any more information by adding this.

Great. That means that if you're after a specific piece of information, and you don't waste time clicking on "ooh shiney" stuff on your way to find that piece of information, you get flagged as a bot and treated as hostile.

Why do we want this version of the web again?

Re: Recaptcha v3: new way to stop bots

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Post by wild_preference »

fotbr wrote: post #8
brianolson wrote: post #3

Slightly creepy, they want to track users around your site to see if they go page to page like a human or like a bot. (Instead of just checking before form-submit or some other action.) But if you already have Google Analytics you're probably not giving up any more information by adding this.

Great. That means that if you're after a specific piece of information, and you don't waste time clicking on "ooh shiney" stuff on your way to find that piece of information, you get flagged as a bot and treated as hostile. Why do we want this version of the web again?

Abuse exists, so there is then demand to prevent it.

Your anger would be better directed at the bad actors who ruin things for you, like how you need to buy a lock for your door. How much time in your life has been wasted by slotting a key into a hole? Ugh, doesn't anyone know this isn't the world I asked for?

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