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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by jhabdas »

cauthon wrote: post #88
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #42

I did this. In the following sequence, over a few years, and am now to step 5: 1. Turn off notifications for the Facebook app on your phone; 2. Turn off notifications for the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps on your phone; 3. Delete the Facebook app from your phone; 4. Delete the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps from your phone; and finally 5. Log out of Facebook on your desktop. It took me…

I successfully did this ~2 years ago, but I'm still having trouble breaking the same habit with Reddit (and even Hacker News to a lesser extent)

You know what to do

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by dlivingston »

quadcore wrote: post #110

A new survey of more than 3,400 U.S. Facebook users finds that 44 percent of users ages 18 to 29 have deleted the app from their phones in the past year. Overall, 26 percent have deleted the app, while 42 percent have taken a break of several weeks or more. Something's off. I don't know. How many people are we talking about? 80 millions? In the US alone? Really? We need more source here.

This also, by no means, spells 'the end' of FB. They allude to as much in the article, but personally I've deleted / reinstalled FB multiple times this year (along with Snap and Insta), as an effort to decouple myself from the digital dopamine IVF.

'A new survey finds XX% of users aged _ to _ have rode their bike to work instead of driving this past year' does not mean that people are giving up their car.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by Yizahi »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #42

I did this. In the following sequence, over a few years, and am now to step 5: 1. Turn off notifications for the Facebook app on your phone; 2. Turn off notifications for the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps on your phone; 3. Delete the Facebook app from your phone; 4. Delete the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps from your phone; and finally 5. Log out of Facebook on your desktop. It took me…

Great, now you have one less company selling your data out of thousands. And remember that FB will still retain your profile forever and continue build on it via shadow profile - from everyone you know, and probably from bartering data with other companies you still use. From Google/Apple powering your OS, from Cell operator collecting info with baseband chip, thousands of them.

I'm not saying FB is good, I just say that this fight is already lost, delete FB account or not.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by Symbiote »

anderspitman wrote: post #106
lostgame wrote: post #79

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iOS: Settings -> Notifications Android: Settings -> App Notifications

I'm on Android. I have no doubt something like this is possible there as well, but again if the app doesn't explain to me how to do this then it's obvious they have no respect for my agency and I'm uninstalling their crap.

I think you can long-press on a notification (from any app) to open the OS settings on that app's notifications.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by te_chris »

fermienrico wrote: post #100
weberc2 wrote: post #71

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I bet the Facebook employees who pushed to buy Instagram are feeling pretty justified right about now. But still, I'm not sure if Instagram can be monetized to the same degree as Facebook was in the last decade, especially as they continue to wreck their brand with privacy abuses (note that I'm not a privacy hawk).

Instagram is better positioned for monetization because of: A) Stories and TV like content to compete with Snap B) Ads integrated into their proprietary browser (aka Instagram app) C) Sponsored live events They’ve essentially made a closed ecosystem without having to rely on a desktop browser and they’re more mobile centric than Facebook. Furthermore, Visual content is the basis for IG and it lends itself better for…

From a biz perspective, yes, but it's different.

If anything, IG works better for facebook and its users because it's more honest. It's a platform for photo and video sharing and loads of people just use it to voluntarily follow brands anyway. In some ways, instagram is facebook's distilled product - rather than a directory which became everything, it's just a feed of content, so the terms and user expectations are different.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by rootusrootus »

bdamm wrote: post #102
toomuchtodo wrote: post #31

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Anytime I speak with someone on Messenger, I mention my cellphone # and email. Gotta prime that OOB comms pump, otherwise you'll never break free. If only there was a Messenger API to setup an autoresponder with alternate contact info...

It's nice that phone numbers are so stable these days.

I wonder how long that will continue. I get so many spam calls every day (about a dozen now) that I am looking towards a future where I don't have a POTS number.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by rtkwe »

cm2012 wrote: post #85

That's why Facebook's quarterly number of daily users has dropped precipitously from 181 million daily users to ... 181 million daily users. Facebook's daily user numbers havn't dropped at all. So either they're moving to IG, or people say a lot of things in surveys. EDIT: Meant to specify, the numbers in this comment are US only.

Note this is among American users. With Facebook moving into other markets (see East Asia where their introduction and use might have helped kick off the crisis in Myanmar) drops in the US could easily be covered up by increase elsewhere.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by dlivingston »

ddebernardy wrote: post #61
stephengillie wrote: post #26

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This isn't about deleting your account. It's about uninstalling the app.

I'm not the OP but methinks the two are related. There was a time back in the day when FB gave me updates on what my friends were doing. And then one day - somewhere between 2008, when I stopped using it, and 2013, when I tried it again for a few months, stopped, and only came back 3 or 4 times since - it became mostly memes, cat videos, feel good stuff, what have you. I've yet to bring myself to delete the account,…

Agreed. The gameification of FB brings forward a lot of empty content these days.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by dymk »

Symbiote wrote: post #115
dymk wrote: post #82

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> I wouldn't particularly discourage the rumor. You might as well just admit to encouraging disinformation campaigns against things you don't personally like.

Your friend's friend says the Facebook app tracks conversations. Do you a) Vaguely agree that Facebook is awful, and removing the app is a good idea, b) Start explaining how a detailed log of every app user's location, time spent reading each story, typing speed, searches, lists of other apps used (or in use), full lists of contacts, calendar events, text messages, phone call history, photographs, nearby WiFi network…

Er, I wouldn't choose either. If a friend asked me if Facebook tracks conversations, I'd just give it to them straight from the horse's mouth:

https://newsroom.fb.com/news/h/facebook-does-not-use-your-ph...

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by meritt »

buboard wrote: post #41

Why is HN so eager to document the downfall of facebook? First, realize that for a large part of its demographics, facebook is the internet , and when they quit they 'll leave the internet altogether (provided that there 's not another new platform that absorbs them). Second, other social media are having far bigger leakages (snapchat) but that doesn't seem to concern anyone.

Because HN has a lot of tech startup minded people who view the potential downfall of industry giants as a massive opportunity.
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