I'm not a huge fan of Twitter, so I'll admit bias, but 140/280 characters really isn't enough to construct a proper argument, but it's the exact space to come up with some some witty truism. I seriously doubt that the "likes" were the problem.
Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
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That's a very interesting idea. Force constructive feedback.
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I don't see how it has been "clear for a while" that this is the solution to all of twitter's problems. > 3. (proposed system) Alice is not shown any of the replies to Bob's tweet. Bob's followers scream into the void. The problem of online harassment is not (mainly) that the service UI becomes cumbersome to use for the victim. It's that everyone else can observe they are harassed and the victim loses control over th…
>> "Your proposal would actually make this effect worse, because the victim wouldn't even notice anymore they are harassed." There's a perspective where this is a good thing, but I think I know where you're coming from. I've seen people on the receiving end of these attacks who say they still want to know about it so they know about any tangible threats.
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#225They should do like HN: keep the button but remove the counter visibility. I would like to see this generalized to all social networks actually. You still get to do an appreciation gesture but without entering the popularity contest. Maybe the author of the post could still see the total. YouTube "dislike" button on comments also works like this, you can dislike but it's not counted. In this case it's a bit stupid si…
try it out now: https://bengrosser.com/projects/twitter-demetricator/
Re: Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
#226I was going to suggest that anyone interested in quality of debate unplug from Twitter entirely and go meet up with some folks for coffee. Or Tacos. Or go on a hike together. Or have them over for board games. Bonus if these are folks you don't entirely agree with on everything.
Re: Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
#227I was going to suggest that anyone interested in quality of debate unplug from Twitter entirely and go meet up with some folks for coffee. Or Tacos. Or go on a hike together. Or have them over for board games. Bonus if these are folks you don't entirely agree with on everything.
That doesn't scale at all.
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You must be part of some sort of culture war on Twitter. My experience is completely different. I don't follow people engaging in these battles and I don't post things that would be an engagement. It really is smooth sailing from there. Or, in the words of Steve Jobs: "You're holding it wrong." I use the "like" button for bookmarking interesting things. It would be unfortunate if I had to lose that because people on…
"You must be part of some sort of culture war on Twitter." Everything can become a culture war on Twitter. I follow a somewhat abstract modernist composer’s Twitter, which so far has been entirely about music and performance dates, and now it is up in flames because someone has decided to drag this artist into MeToo movement polemics. It has also been pointed out that a lot of discussion forums for the arts and liter…
Re: Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
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People seem determined to write things on Twitter that are absolutely begging to be taken out of context. Sarcasm, inside-jokes, rhetorical hyperbole, assumptions that everyone is following the same story they are, and so on. I don't know why they do it.
> I don't know why they do it. Quite simply they're playing to the crowd. That's what gets a reaction, so they do it more. Skinner box conditioning at its simplest. Same outside the hardest moderated groups on Reddit. Threads that form a distinct pattern every time. For internet points, or twitter followers, or chasing meaningless numbers. :) Sarcasm and smart works best if used judiciously. How do you design a syste…
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#230I don't think quality of "debate" on Twitter can be salvaged. Everything was designed for "engagement" and turned out to be rage-inducing machine. Quote-retweet is used to send followers to harass the person responsible for the awful tweet. RT is choir-preaching (you're a monster if you don't RT that kicking babies is bad), and replies to twitter-celebrities' tweets give everyone their 15 minutes of fame to post the…