Is this event comparable to when Oracle bought Sun? Should we expect IBM to rip RH apart and alienate all existing customers?
Can't mention Oracle/Sun without linking to this amazing rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&feature=youtu.be...
IBM acquires Red Hat
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#512The history of the “free economy” is one of concentration of market power. Good reference is Galbraith’s “1929 the great crash”
I feel you're right, which is why I'm surprised by the seemingly negative response to this news, and the overwhelmingly positive response from GitHub+Microsoft. Some of the same conflicts of interest exist in both modern cases, notwithstanding, both have opposite contribution histories. Am I missing something?
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I share the sentiment. Gawd. Freaking. Dammit. I've been using RHEL-derived systems for like almost 20 years. This actually feels like a betrayal of the Open Source community. Any bets on whether Fedora and CentOS will exist in November 2019?
What is the relationship between RHEL and CentOS? Never actually used RHEL, but I've heard that they're basically the same - one comes with the support, the other obviously doesn't. Is CentOS supported by Red Hat, so IBM in theory could shut them down?
I assumed Redhat was going to capture lost revenue by somehow making CentOS less viable.
IBMs business nature makes me think its even more likely now.
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#514Guys, this is not just, or mainly not RH Linux. :( - kernel development - Ansible - JBoss (I know HN hates Java, especially Java EE, but it was and is an important factor in enterprise OSS adoption) - OpenShift - Ceph, Gluster All these are in danger, not just RHEL. I don't know about any other company that is large, successful, focuses on the enterprise and absolutely behind OSS. Canonical is way behind Red Hat in t…
Also Atomic/CoreOS - this will probably be cut now, perhaps even before it is complete. http://www.projectatomic.io/blog/2018/06/welcome-to-fedora-c...
Update: Near as I can tell the acquisition completed in March/April.
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I've seen RedHat (via JBoss) knowingly patent work they read in a research paper without referencing or funding them. I was positive it was for a reward, as there was no additionally novel ideas in their descriptions and similar work was already open sourced. I knew it wouldn't hold up so it didn't bother me as impacting my projects, but I was disappointed over the ethics of them doing that. I do wonder how many pate…
It's been my experience that engineers are quite poor at judging the "patentability" of ideas. I'm not saying that you're wrong, just that the patent field is quite opaque and difficult to understand, which is why patent lawyers do quite well.
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The warnings for #1 were clear. Nobody wanted to hear or heed them. I have little sympathy for those that adopted it despite many people begging them (distro maintainers) not to.
I do not think that there were any clear warnings that you should avoid using systemd because it's good software that might stop being developed soon. I also don't think avoiding using systemd solves the problem. My preferred alternative to an abandoned systemd is a well-developed systemd, not sysvinit.
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Show me a single core product IBM have open sourced.
I'm sure that you can draw a line where it does not count as "core product", but Eclipse has to count as something.
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RH are good at a LOT of things but sales remains a bit of a weak point compared to Oracle and to a lesser degree IBM. Hopefully the RH guys can bring back a focus on technology to IBM while IBM figure out how to sell it to customers. PS: so will it be called Blue Hat?
Oracle sales means promising everything and delivering half of that at best. Are you sure you want to use that as an example?
I work for a company driven by sales people. It sucks. They keep promising things we don't have and complaining that engineering can't deliver. IMHO a good sales person should be able to sell what we have. Any jackass can make empty promises.
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According to their 10Q and 10K filings, IBM is over seventy percent a consultation business with less than ten percent of revenue being made from hardware.
So with RedHat and the remains of IBMs hardware division, they make a push into the cloud with their own RISC-V servers with chips fabbed on an advanced node and with a full software stack driven by both IBM and RedHat developers. They'd be vertical in their cloud offerings. You don't need to tell me I'm hallucinating - I know. But it's fun to imagine something good coming from this rather than the simple destruction…
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Oracle sales means promising everything and delivering half of that at best. Are you sure you want to use that as an example?
If they can still sell despite having that (very much deserved) reputation, then their sales teams must be pretty impressive.