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Re: Unslacking Tideways Company

#111

Doing everything in chat is pure insanity. It's great for the day-to-day collaborating on projects... but it's all short-term memory. Are you going to be referencing a chat from 3 years ago? We use an internal forum in addition to chat. Anything substantive goes in the forum. We'll regularly reference 5 year old posts.

Any recommendations for sensible forum software? (self-hosted would be ideal)

Discourse?

Re: Unslacking Tideways Company

#112

Well Slack might have not worked for you. It doesn't work for everyone! Probably it works the worst for devs? Here is a story. I was working with a team of couple people located in different corners of the city. Everyone is remote except two who share an office. Up until a month ago everything was done over email. Sometimes you would send an email and get a reply in minutes, other times after hours. This was highly i…

Why can't you do something else while you're waiting?

You can, but the thing is that unlike with emails, with Slack most conversation happen in public and no one has to CC you in email (or rather remember to CC you in these convos) basically slack replaces CC and BCC part of the email really well

Re: Unslacking Tideways Company

#114

Doing everything in chat is pure insanity. It's great for the day-to-day collaborating on projects... but it's all short-term memory. Are you going to be referencing a chat from 3 years ago? We use an internal forum in addition to chat. Anything substantive goes in the forum. We'll regularly reference 5 year old posts.

Any recommendations for sensible forum software? (self-hosted would be ideal)

Fossil is a source control system that has, among other things, a builtin forum.

I'm convinced that tight integration between source control, issue trackers, wiki pages, and forums is a good thing. Generally you can use URLs, but that's often cumbersome.

Re: Unslacking Tideways Company

#115

Doing everything in chat is pure insanity. It's great for the day-to-day collaborating on projects... but it's all short-term memory. Are you going to be referencing a chat from 3 years ago? We use an internal forum in addition to chat. Anything substantive goes in the forum. We'll regularly reference 5 year old posts.

Any recommendations for sensible forum software? (self-hosted would be ideal)

Great question, and I'm eager to hear the results. We're going to try creating a private subreddit to test the idea of forums for "long form discussions". I used vBulletin back around the early 00s, and I loved it, but I've found a number of people don't "get" forums. Discourse is something else I'd like to try.

I'm curious why people don't like forums for discussions.

Re: Unslacking Tideways Company

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Definitely agree with your decision. After leaving slack entirely from a robotics team and a science club, our productively increased. No longer were we going off topic wasting precious time and making everyone in the channel read every 500+ messages some people engaged in. We instead chose to make more plans during meetings and through direct chat (Messenger). However, Slack is usefull for forums such as donkeycar.s…

> where many hobbists come in and have questions on this software/hardware project I'm rather baffled by the use of chat for this kind of problem. (and I never clicked with IRC either) So - I've got a problem and I come to a chat channel. It's probably been asked before. If I'm lucky I'll find my answer in a searchable chat archive and I won't need to visit at all. Otherwise I face two options: 1. Scroll back and try…

1. Those interleaved discussions are what makes it a worthwhile hangout for experienced users.

2. Conversely, they also mean that maybe you'll help someone else out while you're waiting.

3. It's easier to diagnose a problem in an informal back-and-forth than in the writing-for-posterity style that SO and fora encourage.

Re: Unslacking Tideways Company

#117

Well Slack might have not worked for you. It doesn't work for everyone! Probably it works the worst for devs? Here is a story. I was working with a team of couple people located in different corners of the city. Everyone is remote except two who share an office. Up until a month ago everything was done over email. Sometimes you would send an email and get a reply in minutes, other times after hours. This was highly i…

Yes, i don't doubt that Slack works for companies. It doesn't work for our company and our value of trying to maximize uninterrupted work time.

I found the great success of Slack was reducing interruptions. It replaces things that would have otherwise been a "hard" interruption (in-person conversation or phone call) with a "softer" interruption (notification). And it provides a much better way for people who need to speak with "someone from the x team" to talk to whoever happens to be relatively free at the moment, rather than picking someone to interrupt.

(Also are you sure minimizing interruptions should be a goal? If you cut off all communications you'll avoid interruptions, but that probably won't be good for your business)

Re: Unslacking Tideways Company

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post #7

Definitely agree with your decision. After leaving slack entirely from a robotics team and a science club, our productively increased. No longer were we going off topic wasting precious time and making everyone in the channel read every 500+ messages some people engaged in. We instead chose to make more plans during meetings and through direct chat (Messenger). However, Slack is usefull for forums such as donkeycar.s…

> where many hobbists come in and have questions on this software/hardware project I'm rather baffled by the use of chat for this kind of problem. (and I never clicked with IRC either) So - I've got a problem and I come to a chat channel. It's probably been asked before. If I'm lucky I'll find my answer in a searchable chat archive and I won't need to visit at all. Otherwise I face two options: 1. Scroll back and try…

On a semi-related note - I've been browsing HN for years, and a few times I've tried to recall an article/discussion about a topic, but can't recall the right keywords to type into the search box at the bottom.

What would be great is some sort of IRC or Slack for HN where I could ask if someone recalls the article I'm thinking about, as well as general chit-chat for the community. I searched for this as well, and I think someone had tried to start up an IRC channel or even a slack, but it wasn't well populated.

Maybe there's a Discord I'm not aware of?

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