The fun thing is that IBM stock was already recently dropping.
IBM acquires Red Hat
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#222The articles (and Stalman interviews) happening recently pointed to this situation. Open Source, as adopted currently, is a flawed model that valors corporate protection more than end-user freedom. github is now sourceforge. redhat is now suse Linux. etc. all the little benefits you got having an apache or bsd license over gpl will start to bite you now. Case in point: every major company has a opensource executive w…
> Open Source, as adopted currently, is a flawed model that valors corporate protection more than end-user freedom.
I see your point, and I mostly agree.
I would like to differentiate between Open Source organizations - like Linux Foundation, Apache Foundation or Mozilla Foundation - and mixed organizations like Oracle (owns MySQL), RedHat (owns too many to list), etc.
The first ones represent the pure Open Source approach. Were the software and how it better serves humanity is their main concerns. The second ones are just business that see in Open Source and gratis (free as in beer) software a way to get a bigger user base and to kill any possibility of competitors from the bottom as new entries cannot compete as easily with products that you do not need to pay for.
Real Open Source foundations are fundamental for a functional global software industry. The other ones bring value, but they use Open Source projects as a weapon against competitors, not as something for the good of its users. And that ones are the ones that value corporate protection more than end-user freedom.
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#224Well, I don't know anybody in the FOSS community which would be worried it systemd became endangered ;)
So you'd rather go back to Upstart or SysV? Really?
No, it was just a joke, you know... but in fact I've checked and I'm already running upstart right now, as part of my Ubuntu LTS system. So really no need to "go back" :P
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#226It's like Vader asked Luke to join him in defeating the Emperor (Microsoft) and ruling the galaxy as father and son - and instead of the audience hearing "I'll never join you!!", we hear "sure, let's team up." The cognitive dissonance is so strong here. WTF just happened? If you asked me a month ago to put down serious money in Vegas on this never happening, I'd have happily done so. What on Earth were they thinking?…
Yeah, 10 years down the line RHEL is pretty much guaranteed dead. Probably say goodbye to Fedora as well.
This is sad, Fedora has been my favourite distribution for a little while. Red Hat have been a good community player and it is a big loss for them to be gobbled up by IBM. What is the best alternative to Fedora and CentOS?
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#227New IBM hire, software developer. So far; I've taken part of 3 separate events where I was essentially sat through a presentation on why I should file patents (so they could farm IP off of me and my peers). IBM is a pathological company, and definitely not good news for open source.
Did you expect this beforehand? I can imagine they try to show themselves as being innovative and stuff, and only after you join you get the company policy details on stuff like what you just mentioned.
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#229Can anyone walk me through the reasoning behind all this IBM hatred? What's going on? I thought they just sell mainframes.
Try to use something made by IBM and then tell us if you like it.
I'm of two minds to this. I have a personal POWER6 running AIX and it handles my main hosting and mail. It's a great box and I love the hardware, but the IBM salesdroids would never talk to me (I do all my business through a VAR), and the CUoD nonsense and having to use a whole separate HMC to manage the single LPAR is obnoxious.
On the other hand, I absolutely love my Talos II. It's not an IBM machine, but it's engineered by them; the POWER9 is IBM, a lot of the OpenPOWER and PowerNV stuff is still as IBM designed it, and IBM contributes hardware support.
So I understand this feeling when dealing with IBM as a vendor. They suck. But I think IBM hardware is solid and their R&D is top-notch, and I'd buy IBM again (just not from them).
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#230Can anyone walk me through the reasoning behind all this IBM hatred? What's going on? I thought they just sell mainframes.
Try to use something made by IBM and then tell us if you like it.
1. DB2 is a damn good database imho.
2. And J9 was the fastest JVM when I benchmarked it about a year ago using jmh.
3. And I think Websphere Liberty is a damn fine app server also.
4. I really like Power based CPUs.
5. Talos is made possible because of the open approach that IBM had in creating the power platform.
6. I think loopback is pretty cool also.