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What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Rant seems extremely strong - how about we go with well thought through set of opinions that the CEO of Duck Duck Go is rigorously applying to his product. I personally found his argument so persuasive I intend to set everything to DuckDuckGo again now.

I made the switch to DDG about 12 months ago for all devices. It has been an entirely positive experience.

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Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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post #71

> "Here are a few actionable things companies can do to remain profitable without tracking the maximum amount of information possible on consumers:" Can we add to his list: > Offer a paid option such that consumers who want to pay for privacy / less ads / no ads can. > Along with a paid option, companies should develop partnerships with like minded peers. For example, DDG could pair with various VPN providers and the…

Offer a paid option such that consumers who want to pay for privacy / less ads / no ads can The problem is that the customers with disposable income to pay to see no ads are exactly the people that admen want to reach. So it's unlikely that any ad-supported company will offer this. It would be as good as admitting to their real customers that their inventory (i.e. us) was of "low quality".

And the customers who pay to see no ads are also exactly the people who would refuse to click on the ads anyway and likely also are running an ad blocker, so the admen would have lost nothing (and possibly gained from not paying for wasted impressions).

Having a no-ad tier means you can reasonably argue that those getting ads have opted into them, and thus are more valuable to the advertisers.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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post #60

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Went to try it for a week to see if it was viable. Haven't looked back and have never needed to go to Google's search engine for a year now. Best feature is by far the Stack Overflow 'instant answers'!

When a DDG search has results that seem unsatisfactory then just do a follow up Google bang with !g Often with technical searches the DDG results seem better.

The "just" in having to analyze some results and come to the conclusion that I need to rerun the query with some prefix is not so convincing. I've already wasted time at that point.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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post #94

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DuckDuckGo has a deal with Yandex to display search results from them on some searches. If you search for something in Russian, you'll see a "in partnership with Yandex" message in the corner of the search results page.

Can you narrow the set of search engines from which the results are pulled?

no, they don't expose the sources.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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post #60

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Went to try it for a week to see if it was viable. Haven't looked back and have never needed to go to Google's search engine for a year now. Best feature is by far the Stack Overflow 'instant answers'!

I have it as my primary search engine now too, but I find myself constantly using !g because the results suck.

It’s usually good enough for me 90-95% and if I need something that google does better I’ll just use !sp as a proxy to those results. !g is a last resort.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rant seems extremely strong - how about we go with well thought through set of opinions that the CEO of Duck Duck Go is rigorously applying to his product. I personally found his argument so persuasive I intend to set everything to DuckDuckGo again now.

I've been using it for years (how many years I can't quite recall, but at least 4 or 5). Haven't looked back. If I really need Google results, I can always stick "!g " in front of the search.

You can stick !g or any of those at almost every place in the query. In fact, if it is at the end you can omit the space.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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post #94
post #80

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Are. . .you aware of some relationship between the two? I don't think I've ever heard of them being linked.

DuckDuckGo has a deal with Yandex to display search results from them on some searches. If you search for something in Russian, you'll see a "in partnership with Yandex" message in the corner of the search results page.

Ah, thank you for explaining.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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> Alarmingly, Google now deploys hidden trackers on 76% of websites across the web to monitor your behavior

Is this referring to Google Analytics? If so, I feel like "Google deploys" isn't quite fair compared to "Google's tracker is deployed" or something to that effect. But in any case, the phrasing is confusing enough to me to post here, since I want to know if it means something other than GA, which I understand and can block with uMatrix.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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post #20

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That's not how this model works. There are three general models of online advertising: - CPM: you pay per impression (ie how often the ad is seen) - CPC: cost per click. You only pay when the user clicks. - CPA: you only pay when the user clicks and does something (eg buys something) Display advertising (putting ads on third-party websites eg AdSense) is primarily CPM. Search advertising is primarily CPC (or at least…

CPM should be updated to CPK. The M in CPM is the Roman numeral for 1000. It's an archaic term, and should be replaced with the SI unit for 1000. Though coining the phrase "kilo-impression" would be a stretch.

Technically the M in CPM is "Mille", the French word for thousand. The origin of the term is from traditional print publishing.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Went to try it for a week to see if it was viable. Haven't looked back and have never needed to go to Google's search engine for a year now. Best feature is by far the Stack Overflow 'instant answers'!

I have it as my primary search engine now too, but I find myself constantly using !g because the results suck.

When I moved to DDG, it took me more than a week to tune my searches for it. I was completely trained to the google interpreter and ddg works different. Now I use slightly different phrases, or ordering and it is great. I only use !g for very specific technical searches, like obscure errors.
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