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Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link

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Re: Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link

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What's really shocking is that I've never once had an acceptable experience with a recruiter that has reached out to me. I've taken over 40 interviews this year in a variety of fields. I've had a much better experience and indeed received offers when applying to an ad or application posted on Indeed, Linkedin, Angel.co or the company website.

What is the general bad experience that you have? I've engaged with one recruiter that made a good first impression, it took a bit of convincing to have him find me jobs with a suitable market rate (they probably like lower salaries because it increases their chance of success and this payout) but then he actually offered me a couple jobs that I think I would have had a hard time finding myself. I never acted on any…

they probably like lower salaries because it increases their chance of success and this payout

From my experience it’s the opposite. Recruiters try to get you the highest salary they can because then they get a bigger cut. More than one of them has told me this.

There have been a couple times when I’ve told them my desired salary and they’ve upped it by 40% or more.

Yes, there are scummy recruiters out there, but for the most part I think recruiters are great. It’s like having an agent!

People in other fields don’t get this experience and they have to work harder to find a job. I’m not talking about technical interviews, but just getting your foot in the door.

Re: Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link

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I am torn on this, devs are currently in a very fortunate position (if you live in a tech hotspot) to be able to just ignore these requests or be impolite by sending a link like this. However I believe you should still be grateful to be in a position like this and treat people with respect. Sending a link saying "no, stop contacting me and gtfo" is pretty rude. I have well educated friends that work in different indu…

I am not torn on this at all. You are 100% right. If you send a link like this as a reply, it's super rude and unnecessary. I feel super grateful to be in a position where jobs hunt me instead of the typical bs in every other field of having to send 100 CVS out and to never hear back from anyone or to hear back half a year later.

Re: Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link

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I wish LinkedIn would let recruiters realize that I'm only willing to work within specified geographical areas. Probably 80% of my LinkedIn recruiter spam is for jobs that require moving to SV or NYC. It's a waste of everybody's time. Even better would be a mechanism that cost recruiters actual $$$ for spamming people whose profiles clearly indicate they're unsuited for the job or unwilling to relocate to the job's l…

Not sure if that's still the case but LinkedIn used to have a service called the Inmail Response Guarantee [1]. The simplest way to ensure the recruiter does cost money is to respond to your inmail. [1]: https://business.linkedin.com/talent-solutions/blog/2009/09/...

They must have some mechanism like that still in place because when you switch your profile to "I am looking", you start getting nag reminders from LinkedIn to respond to recruiters or else your switch will slide back to off.

Re: Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link

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Since the GDPR came in, the amount of recruitment spam has dropped dramatically for me

I respond to any recruitment spam with a GDPR request for all of the data they have on me, and a request to delete it after they've sent it. This has worked very well so far.

Interestingly someone pointed me to this company recently https://aevy.com/about/dataprotection who scrape public data and resell it to recruiters.

I downloaded the JSON document they had on me and it was pretty accurate. Again, public information so nothing surprising.

I opted out anyway

Re: Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link

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I respond to any recruitment spam with a GDPR request for all of the data they have on me, and a request to delete it after they've sent it. This has worked very well so far.

Do you know where I can find guidelines or a template on writing a GDPR request or do you (almost) literally just say hey please send me all the data you have, GDPR requires you do so if I ask and I’m asking thanks? (I’m in the EU)

I just say pretty much what you said, no formal template.

Re: Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link

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I am torn on this, devs are currently in a very fortunate position (if you live in a tech hotspot) to be able to just ignore these requests or be impolite by sending a link like this. However I believe you should still be grateful to be in a position like this and treat people with respect. Sending a link saying "no, stop contacting me and gtfo" is pretty rude. I have well educated friends that work in different indu…

I am not torn on this at all. You are 100% right. If you send a link like this as a reply, it's super rude and unnecessary. I feel super grateful to be in a position where jobs hunt me instead of the typical bs in every other field of having to send 100 CVS out and to never hear back from anyone or to hear back half a year later.

Author here.

Well, in my experience the people asking me if I am interested are rather rude. I politely explain to them that I am not interested and a lot of follow-up questions come flying in. Why is that?

That is why created the page, I answer now:

> Thank you very much for your message.

> I am not interested, before you answer me again please have a look at https://no-thank-you.de/.

> Best,

Re: Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link

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Much like many posters here, I have some preset responses that I send to recruiters. In particular, it’s a “I’m not looking right now, but I’ll save your info and let you know if my situation changes!”. This worked really well when my startup fell apart, and I was able to “scramble the jets” and get interviews set up within a week at a ton of companies. I think that the author confused “polite” with “passive aggressi…

Maybe it is a cultural difference, because here in Germany we are highly protected by employment laws. My contract has 3 month notice time. So I never felt the need to save the contact details of recruiting agents. But then I am just at the start of my career...

Re: Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not torn on this at all. You are 100% right. If you send a link like this as a reply, it's super rude and unnecessary. I feel super grateful to be in a position where jobs hunt me instead of the typical bs in every other field of having to send 100 CVS out and to never hear back from anyone or to hear back half a year later.

Author here. Well, in my experience the people asking me if I am interested are rather rude. I politely explain to them that I am not interested and a lot of follow-up questions come flying in. Why is that? That is why created the page, I answer now: > Thank you very much for your message. > I am not interested, before you answer me again please have a look at https://no-thank-you.de/ . > Best,

Why even answer? I always say : no answer on the internet is a no.

Re: Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link

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Somehow I always want to be pleasant with recruiters. Firstly because some of my friends are recruiters so I wouldn't treat someone in a way I would want my friends to be treated. Secondly because I kinda get "karma is a switch" feeling and don't want to be on the receiving end of that kind ("no, buzz off") of behaviour if I look for a job in a less then favourable state on the job market one day. I just like to personally reply, maybe even ask a few questions about the company, maybe there is an interesting idea or insight on it.

Re: Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know where I can find guidelines or a template on writing a GDPR request or do you (almost) literally just say hey please send me all the data you have, GDPR requires you do so if I ask and I’m asking thanks? (I’m in the EU)

I just say pretty much what you said, no formal template.

Thanks!
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