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My dad used to work as a technician for a company selling expensive hospital equipment. He says there are countless times when he or with another colleage would go in any hospital and roll out such a device. Nobody asks any questions. At my university there were some actual thefts like this. Someone stole a beamer from a high ceiling in the middle of the day. And another time someone stole a heavy (=unliftable) new s…
May have worked. I have worked in hospitals in US and there's no way you could walk in without someone (officially, the nurse in charge) asking you who you are. I was actually expelled from hospitals even though I did have a nametag and an approval to work there.
Turns Out Wearing a Hi-Vis Vest Gets You into Everything for Free
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One could argue that to somebody with racist inclination a black person wearing a hi-viz might look even more credible.
Exactly. No one intentionally drawing attention to themselves could possibly be up to something nefarious, they'd draw too much attention to themselves to get away with anything.
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#164I carefully and quietly walked into an academic building with a pair of bolt cutters and walked out with a pair of bolt cutters and an iMac hefted under one arm (having relieved it of its lock-cable) and nobody seemed to even notice. That said it was my actual job to do this- but I could have been anyone with a pair of bolt cutters!
I lost the key to my bike lock, took the bus home. Next AM brought a hacksaw to work. As I sat sawing through the cable, somebody I didn't know walked by and said "If you were stealing that bike, you'd be sawing a lot faster", smiled and walked on by.
I was amused by my smart-ass answer and their reaction, but later, when everybody had come down, thought it was a good question. How do you prove you're the parent? Who's business is it to ask anyway? Do you call the police to verify every time s kid's upset? Or is kidnapping an insignificant statistic that we just live with it?
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#165Annecdotally reminds me of underage drinking. If you stood with a pint glass at your side looking shifty you got kicked out in 5 minutes. If you were brazenly smoking a cigarette, knocking the beer back and shouting like you owned the place the bouncers just assumed no one underage would draw that much attention to themselves and leave you alone...
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May have worked. I have worked in hospitals in US and there's no way you could walk in without someone (officially, the nurse in charge) asking you who you are. I was actually expelled from hospitals even though I did have a nametag and an approval to work there.
Interesting. Are these bigger city hospitals? I've visited people in several hospitals and you just walk in. Unless you actually go up to a counter to ask for help, you're free to roam. Sure, some areas are off limits. You can't go into the ER patient area without someone opening the door, and I'm sure the surgery section is off limits. But you can walk to a patient's room, the maternity ward, the cafeteria, etc. In…
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#167similarly a cheap vest will allow a canine unquestioned access in lots of places
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#168I used to do TV technician things at music/sports events and studios where you always needed the pass and there was always security including bouncers. Being a contractor I didn't have fall-back documentation with something like 'BBC' written in big letters on the top.
However I would need access first to get in and then get the proper pass.
Mobiles weren't a guaranteed thing then so I could not just have someone meet me at the gate. So the first challenge always would be having to get past security. When I had the access all areas skills (including back stage) something like getting into Coldplay would have been a snip.
Nowadays I am back of the queue paying to get in, having to wear the right dress code etc. but for a long time I just didn't have any expectations of that. I just breezed past, no payment required, no fake ID or badge, just a smile, P+Q's, plausible story and a little bit of white, male privilege.
Now I did sometimes use my 'craft' to go to things of my own choosing - local gigs and festivals. I did find that there was one thing that you have to get right when you are in... Sometimes a bouncer will follow you and then when you blag to you mates that you got in with a feeble story they will boot you out. Offers to pay will not be accepted, you then are barred and having no mates for that evening, having to go home early.
If you are male then one way to 'social engineer without deception' straight into nightclubs where there is a strict door policy (e.g. dress code, long queue, bouncers) is to be with four highly attractive ladies. Easy, no blagging needed.
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#169Interestingly enough when UEFA play at the stadium they have better security than the stadium owners. Because they must have total control of every set of eyes watching their football matches. So even we get special badges to wear, and have to be pre-approved.
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#170Similarly, a white pickup/van with a ladder on it can be a pass to park nearly anywhere.