That and dietary supplements. So many people take dietary supplements without ever getting a simple metabolic panel to even see if they need the supplements.
I just read a BBC story about a man who nuked his liver by taking concentrated green tea capsules. He requires a full transplant and four years later his kidneys are failing and he has chronic abdominal pain. It seems that one or more compounds in green tea (safe as a beverage, problematic as a concentrate) may negatively impact liver function in some genetically vulnerable populations. Truthfully though, it’s not kn…
The military’s obsession with energy drinks is contributing to PTSD
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#52Does the military still hand out amphetamines and/or modafinil, or is caffeine really the alertness/wakefulness drug of choice?
WW2 German Army ran on amphetamines, according to this book: https://www.amazon.com/Blitzed-Norman-Ohler/dp/1328915344/re.... Interview with the author: https://cen.acs.org/articles/95/i12/Blitzed-author-explains-...
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#53Does this story show any causation or is it just correlation? From my experience in the Army and deployed it was the units closest to the FLOT who would have the most energy drink usage- if you don't have other creature comforts (sleep, hot chow, safety) you tend to resort to things that you can access, like cheap energy drinks. These units would also see the most combat and have the highest prevalence of PTSD.
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#54Would this even be a story if people were drinking coffee instead? The active ingredient in Red Bull is caffeine. Yet a cup of coffee has more caffeine than a Red Bull. Their marketing has been very effective in convincing people that energy drinks are more than just a caffeinated drink with a bunch of other chemicals that don’t really work. Because of that, people vilify these various drinks, and now we get an artic…
Red Bull is honestly not that popular in this crowd though, the major energy drinks you see are Monster, Rockstar, and as mentioned, Rip It (really an offbrand of the former two from the maker of Shasta/La Croix). These typically have 160mg of caffeine, which is high for coffee although not by a large margin. The culture around them seems to encourage much greater consumption though, with oversize cans (e.g. 24oz wit…
Re: The military’s obsession with energy drinks is contributing to PTSD
#55Does the military still hand out amphetamines and/or modafinil, or is caffeine really the alertness/wakefulness drug of choice?
>Does the military still hand out amphetamines and/or modafinil, or is caffeine really the alertness/wakefulness drug of choice? Actual stimulant use is restricted to special forces and flight crews. But anecdotally, the energy drink consumption in the Army is out of control. I can remember people literally ordering pallets of Monster to show up on training exercises. Nicotine too. It's not uncommon to see someone wi…
Ambien was also handed out for long-haul flights for a lot of people, which was pretty nice when crossing a bunch of time zones. I don't know at what level of authority that was authorized.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I can remember people literally ordering pallets of Monster to show up on training exercises. What like as a replen demand? Aren't they restricted to using issued rations on an exercise? And how are they getting them deployed?
> Aren't they restricted to using issued rations on an exercise? That and what you can manage to bring with you. Back when I was in the infantry you carried whatever you took to the field so we tended to pack light(ish). I used to take a little camp stove so I could have hot coffee in the morning and other people would pack stuff like ramen or whatever. Even when we were living in holes ~1km off the Iraqi border they…
Also Amazon or reship-stuff-from-Amazon to APO/FPO addresses was great.
Re: The military’s obsession with energy drinks is contributing to PTSD
#57Would this even be a story if people were drinking coffee instead? The active ingredient in Red Bull is caffeine. Yet a cup of coffee has more caffeine than a Red Bull. Their marketing has been very effective in convincing people that energy drinks are more than just a caffeinated drink with a bunch of other chemicals that don’t really work. Because of that, people vilify these various drinks, and now we get an artic…
Red Bull is honestly not that popular in this crowd though, the major energy drinks you see are Monster, Rockstar, and as mentioned, Rip It (really an offbrand of the former two from the maker of Shasta/La Croix). These typically have 160mg of caffeine, which is high for coffee although not by a large margin. The culture around them seems to encourage much greater consumption though, with oversize cans (e.g. 24oz wit…
I'm actually curious now if the 30 year old boomer meme is in any way an outgrowth of the Iraq war. The aesthetic the meme embraces reminds me a lot of the guys I knew my age and older who served. Gonna have to reflect on this a bit.
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#58Would this even be a story if people were drinking coffee instead? The active ingredient in Red Bull is caffeine. Yet a cup of coffee has more caffeine than a Red Bull. Their marketing has been very effective in convincing people that energy drinks are more than just a caffeinated drink with a bunch of other chemicals that don’t really work. Because of that, people vilify these various drinks, and now we get an artic…
"Long-term potentiation in the hippocampus" in conjunction with traumatic stress is plausibly causally related to PTSD.
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#60Would this even be a story if people were drinking coffee instead? The active ingredient in Red Bull is caffeine. Yet a cup of coffee has more caffeine than a Red Bull. Their marketing has been very effective in convincing people that energy drinks are more than just a caffeinated drink with a bunch of other chemicals that don’t really work. Because of that, people vilify these various drinks, and now we get an artic…
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