Morocco abruptly drops clock change

Post by improbable22 » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 1:02 PM UTC

eloisant wrote: post #139

function_seven wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yours might not, but mine does. Evenings for me are from ~5pm to bedtime. Unfortunately they're determined by the clock, not the sun.

The point is saying summer time is better than winter time regardless you where you live is meaningless. Depending where you live, the offset with the sun is different. In France for example I'd rather we stick with winter time all year round, because I don't care if it's dark at 6pm on winter but doing your morning commute during the night is highly depressing.

Post by ddebernardy » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 1:09 PM UTC

sonnyblarney wrote: post #45

toyg wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Easier” means nothing. All those checks and balances you despise, will often produce transition plans that are much more respectful of the overall system - precisely because an authority cannot steamroll arbitrary changes that might harm this or that legitimate interest. Efficiency and correctness are not the same thing.

Easier absolutely means something and I'm not suggesting we dump democracy. FYI - most of your government, wherever you are from, is run by bureaucratic edict, not by political means. The heads of government agencies often wield immense power and have no need to respond to voters interest because there's effectively too much 'on the ballot' so to speak, and too much mundane detail for voters to understand. An technic…

Post by ddebernardy » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 1:26 PM UTC

eloisant wrote: post #139

function_seven wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yours might not, but mine does. Evenings for me are from ~5pm to bedtime. Unfortunately they're determined by the clock, not the sun.

The point is saying summer time is better than winter time regardless you where you live is meaningless. Depending where you live, the offset with the sun is different. In France for example I'd rather we stick with winter time all year round, because I don't care if it's dark at 6pm on winter but doing your morning commute during the night is highly depressing.

Post by ddebernardy » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 1:31 PM UTC

ithkuil wrote: post #127

andrepd wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>To clarify, the European Commission had a public consultation on DST A public consultation, conducted online, to which 4 million people (less that 1% of the population of Europe) answered. 3 million of those were from Germany.

I'm living in the EU. I go online and read various news items every day. I'm baffled about the fact I somehow managed to miss that there was an official poll / call for direct citizen feedback on such a topic I personally care about. I might have bit a bit distracted ... or the whole poll might not have been conducted particularly well. Overrepresentation of a particular country might be a tell tale sign of local med…

Post by johnchristopher » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 2:02 PM UTC

sonnyblarney wrote: post #45

toyg wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Easier” means nothing. All those checks and balances you despise, will often produce transition plans that are much more respectful of the overall system - precisely because an authority cannot steamroll arbitrary changes that might harm this or that legitimate interest. Efficiency and correctness are not the same thing.

Easier absolutely means something and I'm not suggesting we dump democracy. FYI - most of your government, wherever you are from, is run by bureaucratic edict, not by political means. The heads of government agencies often wield immense power and have no need to respond to voters interest because there's effectively too much 'on the ballot' so to speak, and too much mundane detail for voters to understand. An technic…