Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure

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Post by matt4077 » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 12:22 PM UTC

Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure
theatlantic.com

Re: Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure

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Post by cube00 » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 1:14 PM UTC

> Google now has its own phone—Pixel—that gets security updates quickly and regularly.

The Nexus 5 line used to have this until Google decided after three years to stop supporting it despite the hardware continuing to last well beyond that.

Re: Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure

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Post by defanor » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 1:19 PM UTC

There's a typo in the title.

Edit: no more typo.

Re: Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure

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Post by blakesterz » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 1:23 PM UTC

defanor wrote: post #3

There's a typo in the title. Edit: no more typo.

Yep, it's 'Schneier'

Re: Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure

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Post by beatgammit » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 1:31 PM UTC

cube00 wrote: post #2

> Google now has its own phone—Pixel—that gets security updates quickly and regularly. The Nexus 5 line used to have this until Google decided after three years to stop supporting it despite the hardware continuing to last well beyond that.

And I'm sure the Pixel like will be the same.

Re: Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure

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Post by kltutor » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 1:33 PM UTC

Point in case, the German chancellors phone being tapped a few years ago:

https://www.thelocal.de/20160223/nsa-eavesdropped-on-merkels...

Re: Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure

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Post by imglorp » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 1:49 PM UTC

cube00 wrote: post #2

> Google now has its own phone—Pixel—that gets security updates quickly and regularly. The Nexus 5 line used to have this until Google decided after three years to stop supporting it despite the hardware continuing to last well beyond that.

Make no mistake: their phones are data gathering devices serving one master. They may keep up to date with patches, but you have very little knowledge or control of what they collect from you and what they do with it.

Re: Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure

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Post by jngreenlee » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 2:07 PM UTC

I submit for your approval: https://www.punkt.ch/en/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

Re: Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure

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Post by shazow » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 2:14 PM UTC

imglorp wrote: post #7

cube00 wrote: post #2

> Google now has its own phone—Pixel—that gets security updates quickly and regularly. The Nexus 5 line used to have this until Google decided after three years to stop supporting it despite the hardware continuing to last well beyond that.

Make no mistake: their phones are data gathering devices serving one master. They may keep up to date with patches, but you have very little knowledge or control of what they collect from you and what they do with it.

> They may keep up to date with patches, but you have very little knowledge or control of what they collect from you and what they do with it.

It's not an ominous mystery. Google is extremely explicit about what they collect from you and what they do with it.

https://myaccount.google.com/privacy

https://policies.google.com/privacy

I have not seen any evidence that they violate their own policies, even when I worked there a while ago and had internal knowledge.

Re: Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure

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Post by gruez » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 2:20 PM UTC

imglorp wrote: post #7

cube00 wrote: post #2

> Google now has its own phone—Pixel—that gets security updates quickly and regularly. The Nexus 5 line used to have this until Google decided after three years to stop supporting it despite the hardware continuing to last well beyond that.

Make no mistake: their phones are data gathering devices serving one master. They may keep up to date with patches, but you have very little knowledge or control of what they collect from you and what they do with it.

>... or control of what they collect from you and what they do with it.

lineageos?