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Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by agumonkey »

eloisant wrote: post #142
csomar wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I guess it shows how Morocco is not exactly a democratic country, so you get the classic tyrant-style decision-making here and there. It has nothing to do with Democracy but incompetence. Many people think that democracy brings modernity and order. It is really the other way around.

It has to do with separation of powers. In a democracy a single individual couldn't make this decision, so if a president or prime minister decides to do such a drastic change so quickly other people (congress for example) will put a brake to it and force a reflexion/transition period.

Until the whole govt is too incomptent

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by dijit »

tinus_hn wrote: post #159
csomar wrote: post #155

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A bunch of incompetent leaders can get nothing done. They'll focus on attacking each other and destroying what ground they live on. An incompetent leader will try to get his vision realized. Might not work all of it but some of it might pan out.

I’d rather have a bunch of idiots doing nothing than have them rule a country.

I think the parent is suggesting that they don’t do nothing. Only that they do nothing to further the best interests of the people. They will absolutely further their own interests and have little interest in the (often human cost) side-effects of attacking each other.

Eg. Medicare.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by ashildr »

watwut wrote: post #152
andrepd wrote: post #95

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>To clarify, the European Commission had a public consultation on DST A public consultation, conducted online, to which 4 million people (less that 1% of the population of Europe) answered. 3 million of those were from Germany.

Nobody except Germans knew about a poll. Seriously, why?

Because DST is used as THE standard Anti-Brussels rhetorical Point it was all over the news for weeks in Germany.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by icebraining »

ithkuil wrote: post #127
andrepd wrote: post #95

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>To clarify, the European Commission had a public consultation on DST A public consultation, conducted online, to which 4 million people (less that 1% of the population of Europe) answered. 3 million of those were from Germany.

I'm living in the EU. I go online and read various news items every day. I'm baffled about the fact I somehow managed to miss that there was an official poll / call for direct citizen feedback on such a topic I personally care about. I might have bit a bit distracted ... or the whole poll might not have been conducted particularly well. Overrepresentation of a particular country might be a tell tale sign of local med…

The EU Commission launches hundreds of Consultations, which the vast majority never hear about: https://ec.europa.eu/info/consultations_en

I'm not sure if they actually pretend these are representative of the general public opinion.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by isostatic »

eridius wrote: post #129
kmm wrote: post #76

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I'm curious to know, what is the point of linking to solar time? What advantage is there to the Sun reaching its highest point at 12 'o clock? Most people are awake for about 6 hours before noon, and about 10 hours after. Most social events also happen after the work day. So our day is already shifted from what would logically follow from our clock. Being on +2 already feels like a compromise between the two. I'd lov…

I don't know a single person that is awake at 6am. Where does this "most people" claim come from?

You don't know anyone who works a night shift?

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by watwut »

ashildr wrote: post #163
watwut wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody except Germans knew about a poll. Seriously, why?

Because DST is used as THE standard Anti-Brussels rhetorical Point it was all over the news for weeks in Germany.

Thank you. It also implies that DST is politiced in Germany the way I did not expected, it is interesting.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by [deleted] »

robertAngst wrote: post #67
sonnyblarney wrote: post #30

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I think it has nothing to do with Democracy. Frankly, central authority should make this kind of stuff easier because a central entity can take into consideration all of the bureaucracies and do what needs to be done. In Democracies, pushing through such changes has to be a nightmare - so many competing interests, populism, you have to find the right legislative window, legislation is burdened with irrelevant stuff,…

Its crazy to me that this style of thinking is re-surging. Between this and recent nationalist movements, I'm concerned that our generation will be responsible for a regression in progress.

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Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by alexdumitru »

ginko wrote: post #141
alexdumitru wrote: post #83

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Most of Europe will move to winter time tomorrow and also abolish DST and I have the same feelings about it as you. I prefer darker mornings than evenings, as I've never been an early riser.

You've never been an early riser so you prefer to have to wake up one hour early forever?

Yes, because I will enjoy more day time. I never wake up early enough to be dark outside, so that was never a problem for me, but there are days in the winter when the sunset is just a few hours after I wake up.

Re: Morocco abruptly drops clock change

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Post by [deleted] »

scarejunba wrote: post #156
csomar wrote: post #155

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A bunch of incompetent leaders can get nothing done. They'll focus on attacking each other and destroying what ground they live on. An incompetent leader will try to get his vision realized. Might not work all of it but some of it might pan out.

Yeah, but if they do nothing, things might turn out okay. If they manage to succeed with the wrong choice, then everything will be shit.

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