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Re: WebRender is in beta

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Post by chmln »

actionscripted wrote: post #27

Enabled in FF Nightly 65.0a1 (2018-10-26) (64-bit) and it felt a little sluggish especially with regards to scrolling. I understand it's in beta but I guess I was expecting things to "feel" faster. Tried resizing larger sites/pages and things felt snappy but scrolling felt jumpy and off. That said, can't wait for this to come out of beta!

I've experienced the exact same thing on latest thunderbird betas and nightlies.

Its a shame that GPU support by Mozilla products is in such abysmal state. Meanwhile Google has working hardware accelerated video decoding AND decent GPU support in Chrome.

Re: WebRender is in beta

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Post by discreditable »

actionscripted wrote: post #27

Enabled in FF Nightly 65.0a1 (2018-10-26) (64-bit) and it felt a little sluggish especially with regards to scrolling. I understand it's in beta but I guess I was expecting things to "feel" faster. Tried resizing larger sites/pages and things felt snappy but scrolling felt jumpy and off. That said, can't wait for this to come out of beta!

I've never used smooth scrolling in any browser (Firefox, Chrome, IE) that didn't feel laggy. It's the first thing I turn off anymore.

Re: WebRender is in beta

#33

Post by wlesieutre »

discreditable wrote: post #32
actionscripted wrote: post #27

Enabled in FF Nightly 65.0a1 (2018-10-26) (64-bit) and it felt a little sluggish especially with regards to scrolling. I understand it's in beta but I guess I was expecting things to "feel" faster. Tried resizing larger sites/pages and things felt snappy but scrolling felt jumpy and off. That said, can't wait for this to come out of beta!

I've never used smooth scrolling in any browser (Firefox, Chrome, IE) that didn't feel laggy. It's the first thing I turn off anymore.

Safari and Edge with touch scrolling are buttery smooth! If you’re talking about a smooth scrolling option imposed on a clicky mouse wheel, I’m not sure if it’s even possible it is to make that feel snappy.

Re: WebRender is in beta

#34

Post by markdog12 »

antonios wrote: post #23
markdog12 wrote: post #2

> Kats is standing up WebRender in Firefox for Android I'm guessing "standing" should be "setting"? Anyway, doesn't seem to work just yet for nightly. I enabled in about:config, but get "unavailable by runtime: WebRender not ready for use on non-e10s Android". Also, "WEBRENDER_QUALIFIED: blocked by env: Has battery" I filtered by e10s and electrolysis in about:config but couldn't find anything

Me too. A bit of Googling told me that if you set the variable MOZ_WEBRENDER=1 it enables it. That worked.

That doesn't seem to work

Re: WebRender is in beta

#36

Post by cztomsik »

I've just made very basic integration with node. It's rather PoC, but it works.

It can currently show a window and render moving rect from vue.js template. There's still a lot of work to be done, webrender does too little to be just drop in replacement for electron but it might be worth watching if you're interested in anything like that (lightweight cross-platform opengl-rendered gui apps developed in react/vue/angular/...)

https://github.com/cztomsik/node-webrender

Re: WebRender is in beta

#37

Post by kevingadd »

chmln wrote: post #31
actionscripted wrote: post #27

Enabled in FF Nightly 65.0a1 (2018-10-26) (64-bit) and it felt a little sluggish especially with regards to scrolling. I understand it's in beta but I guess I was expecting things to "feel" faster. Tried resizing larger sites/pages and things felt snappy but scrolling felt jumpy and off. That said, can't wait for this to come out of beta!

I've experienced the exact same thing on latest thunderbird betas and nightlies. Its a shame that GPU support by Mozilla products is in such abysmal state. Meanwhile Google has working hardware accelerated video decoding AND decent GPU support in Chrome.

Firefox has had hardware video decoding and GPU support for like 15 years? This is just a new graphics stack.

Re: WebRender is in beta

#38

Post by kevingadd »

actionscripted wrote: post #27

Enabled in FF Nightly 65.0a1 (2018-10-26) (64-bit) and it felt a little sluggish especially with regards to scrolling. I understand it's in beta but I guess I was expecting things to "feel" faster. Tried resizing larger sites/pages and things felt snappy but scrolling felt jumpy and off. That said, can't wait for this to come out of beta!

If you're on windows, it could be a compositor bug. Does it only feel sluggish with mousewheel scrolling or does dragging the scrollbar feel bad too?

Could be this bug, for example: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1490991 Maybe worth chiming in if it is.

Re: WebRender is in beta

#39

Post by Natela »

cztomsik wrote: post #36

I've just made very basic integration with node. It's rather PoC, but it works. It can currently show a window and render moving rect from vue.js template. There's still a lot of work to be done, webrender does too little to be just drop in replacement for electron but it might be worth watching if you're interested in anything like that (lightweight cross-platform opengl-rendered gui apps developed in react/vue/angu…

This is a nice experiment ! There are a few people starting to hack around with WebRender. There are already Limn, Azul, Stylish, etc...it would be nice if we joined forces in developing one good UI framework powered by WebRender.
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