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Are Narcissists More Likely to Experience Impostor Syndrome?

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Non-narcissist here, apparently. I do find the premise somewhat troubling. If you’re supremely confident and never doubt yourself, even in situations where you should, you could be described as a narcissist. And if you’re lacking in self-confidence, and constantly think you’ll be found out, you’re also a narcissist. And there’s probably narcissists who experience a moderate level of self-doubt in between. It’s more l…

I think the key to understanding narcissism is that narcissists only try very hard to appear confident but on the inside they're anything but. The grandiosity they display is just a kind of coping mechanism.

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TIL I'm a narcissist. Not how I expected this morning to go. I think these kind of categories that come from psychology are useful and also dangerous. Our innate tendency towards heuristics makes it difficult to talk about this stuff, especially with words like "narcissist" that have strongly negative connotations. The brain is a complicated mess. Maybe the most complicated mess in the universe. We try to impose some…

The diagnosis is not arbitrary and the lack of self-awareness those suffering from NPD experience places them at a disadvantage at self-diagnosis. DSM standards have moved a lot over the years, but NPD has remained largely the same. Ask a child, love-interest or spouse of someone with NPD about the manifestations of the condition on their lives and you'll get a remarkably consistent story. There are two grey areas: First, NPD in women can be confused with Asperger syndrome. Second, NPD is often accompanied (co-morbid) with other disorders (eg. BPD).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Statistically You got anything to back up that claim? That sounds like a pretty big conclusion that you're jumping to without evidence.

"You got anything to back up that claim? That sounds like a pretty big conclusion that you're jumping to without evidence." It's not a "claim". It's literally the null hypothesis: two traits are assumed to be uncorrelated unless proven otherwise. If you want to claim that a sense of "impostor syndrome" is actually indicative of increased skill, it's your job to prove it.

Next you'll come for our precious Dunning-Kruger effect! If my sense of incompetence doesn't mean that I'm actually a big brainy boy, what've I got left?

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Agreed. This striving towards binary classification is so flawed from any broader perspective. I, too, just learned that I'm a narcissist. I had to squint quite a bit at the diagnostic list there, and sort of wedge my own psychological dispositions creatively into the qualifications list there but then yeah -- snap (and crap!) -- I'm a narcissist. Oh, but if I use just a little more nuanced application of thought, th…

By no means is this a universal truism, but in general if you think you have a Cluster B personality disorder, you probably don’t. If you think you’re the smartest, best person in the world and other people are inferior and should know it... then you might.

What if I think I'm approximately the 100th smartest person in the world?

But only when it comes to, say, J2EE?

Like I'm the 100th smartest person at J2EE in the world, and everyone else besides the approximately 100 above me are J2EE-inferior.

Am I a Narcissist? A J2EE-Narcissist?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

By no means is this a universal truism, but in general if you think you have a Cluster B personality disorder, you probably don’t. If you think you’re the smartest, best person in the world and other people are inferior and should know it... then you might.

What if I think I'm approximately the 100th smartest person in the world? But only when it comes to, say, J2EE? Like I'm the 100th smartest person at J2EE in the world, and everyone else besides the approximately 100 above me are J2EE-inferior. Am I a Narcissist? A J2EE-Narcissist?

Side note: I've never used J2EE. Other than as an example. As in just now, above there.
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