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Holla - An open source Campfire

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Re: Holla - An open source Campfire

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you use OS X, try http://propaneapp.com/

I did, when I was on OSX... but now I've switched back to Linux, and kinda miss it. It would be great if I could just connect to Campfire with Pidgin, or any libpurple chat client.

There is Butane for Linux: http://github.com/ricktessner/butane

Re: Holla - An open source Campfire

#52

I must be an old curmudgeon because whenever I see Campfire I think "it's like IRC but with a better client" and wonder what the big deal is. Sure, it's in a browser but is it really that big a deal? I just can't seem to get properly excited about Campfire and it's ilk.

How would you feel if chatrooms like this could "bridge" into the IRC room of your choice?

(Any message in the chat room goes to the irc room, and vice versa).

Re: Holla - An open source Campfire

#53
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you use OS X, try http://propaneapp.com/

I did, when I was on OSX... but now I've switched back to Linux, and kinda miss it. It would be great if I could just connect to Campfire with Pidgin, or any libpurple chat client.

Try http://jaconda.im which does exectly what you want.

Re: Holla - An open source Campfire

#54

The only thing I dislike about Campfire is that it doesn't support some other protocol, like XMPP or IRC, so that I can use it in a normal chat client, with normal chat client features, like desktop notifications. This one doesn't seem to, either.

The reason none of these new chat systems have wide protocol support is because they're really trying to improve the user experience with features like inline image previews, drag + drop file upload, archived history on the server, accessibility to non-techies, etc. Existing clients just don't support that stuff. Innovation is needed in chat UI, not protocols.

Don't get me wrong though, having these platforms be open is definitely important. I'm a co-founder of HipChat.com and while we don't openly support XMPP or IRC yet we are XMPP on the backend and plan to make it available to everyone in the future. IRC support is also something we're considering: http://help.hipchat.com/hipchat/topics/irc_compatibility.

As for getting "normal chat features" like desktop notifications, we provide our own desktop clients in addition to our web interface. Having to pay for Propane just to make Campfire usable is some weak sauce.

Re: Holla - An open source Campfire

#55
Couple of suggestions. 1. It would make more sense to have Textbox at the bottom instead of top. When you enter something, you see your message right above your textbox.

2. Instead of having separate area for dropping files, why not allow users to drop files in the same textbox where you type your message.

3. Bubbles doesn't look nice. I mean, it looks good as a demo but not when you use the product. It is sort of a distraction. I would rather like to see zebra stripes(may be #ffffff and #f1f1f1).

4. I like to see list of users on the sidebar instead of on chat area.

Re: Holla - An open source Campfire

#56

Couple of suggestions. 1. It would make more sense to have Textbox at the bottom instead of top. When you enter something, you see your message right above your textbox. 2. Instead of having separate area for dropping files, why not allow users to drop files in the same textbox where you type your message. 3. Bubbles doesn't look nice. I mean, it looks good as a demo but not when you use the product. It is sort of a…

Potentially stupid question, but what are zebra stripes in web design?

Re: Holla - An open source Campfire

#57
post #56

Couple of suggestions. 1. It would make more sense to have Textbox at the bottom instead of top. When you enter something, you see your message right above your textbox. 2. Instead of having separate area for dropping files, why not allow users to drop files in the same textbox where you type your message. 3. Bubbles doesn't look nice. I mean, it looks good as a demo but not when you use the product. It is sort of a…

Potentially stupid question, but what are zebra stripes in web design?

give different colors to alternate rows to differentiate the messages.

like http://www.alistapart.com/d/stripedtables/itunes.png

Here they use white and light blue.

Re: Holla - An open source Campfire

#58
post #56

Couple of suggestions. 1. It would make more sense to have Textbox at the bottom instead of top. When you enter something, you see your message right above your textbox. 2. Instead of having separate area for dropping files, why not allow users to drop files in the same textbox where you type your message. 3. Bubbles doesn't look nice. I mean, it looks good as a demo but not when you use the product. It is sort of a…

Potentially stupid question, but what are zebra stripes in web design?

When different items in a list or rows in a table have alternating colors.

Re: Holla - An open source Campfire

#59
post #17
post #9

The screenshot doesn't fit in my normal browser window and I don't get a horizontal scrollbar to pan to the right. Could just be Firefox 4 being buggy though.

Same on Chrome, but since there was no horizontal scrollbar, my initial thought was that this was intentional for some reason. (aesthetic?)

Showed fine when I maximized it, site seems designed for 1680x1050 to the detriment of anything smaller.
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