I remember about Hydroxycut, another weight loss pill from old days. That was recalled due to liver damage.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3952288/
Green tea supplements ruined my liver
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Re: Green tea supplements ruined my liver
#12Did anyone else see a dosage that he was actually taking for these green tea supplements? It seems to be missing from the article but is arguably the most important point. Anything is poisonous to the body in high enough doses. Does the producer of these capsules (apparently Vitacost) specify a maximum dosage? If so, was Jim exceeding this recommendation? Or well under it? Come on BBC.
From Vitacost's website:
Vitacost Green Tea Extract
Green Tea Extract (leaf) standardized to 98% polyphenols (490 mg), 80% catechins (400 mg), 50% epigallocatechin-3P-gallate (EGCG)(250 mg)
Amount Per Serving: 500mg
https://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-green-tea-extract-standard...
Re: Green tea supplements ruined my liver
#13Good grief!
Why not drink green tea if you're interested in the positive effects of green tea?
Apart from its positive effects it's a fantastic drink.
Re: Green tea supplements ruined my liver
#14Did anyone else see a dosage that he was actually taking for these green tea supplements? It seems to be missing from the article but is arguably the most important point. Anything is poisonous to the body in high enough doses. Does the producer of these capsules (apparently Vitacost) specify a maximum dosage? If so, was Jim exceeding this recommendation? Or well under it? Come on BBC.
They mentioned that since the green tea was consumed from a long time it is clasified as food, so nobody is forced to test for side effects, dosage or effectiveness.
Other issues could be caused if the plant supplement contains also different plants, there could be similar plants that the plant collectors could slip in(by mistake or not) (I mean in general I do not know how the green tea is collected) , or the plants could be contaminated with pesticides, so I would avoid supplements if are not recommended by a doctor. As an example my son when he was young he liked carrot juice, so give it to him daily, when we went to the doctor she noticed he had is skin colored and told us to stop, I had no idea that too much carrots can be bad (it sucks that we are told that X is good for you but not that if you take too much X you will get ill)
Re: Green tea supplements ruined my liver
#15Did anyone else see a dosage that he was actually taking for these green tea supplements? It seems to be missing from the article but is arguably the most important point. Anything is poisonous to the body in high enough doses. Does the producer of these capsules (apparently Vitacost) specify a maximum dosage? If so, was Jim exceeding this recommendation? Or well under it? Come on BBC.
There is no 'dosage', because—as mentioned in the article—these capsules are classified as food, not medicine: > What is it about green tea supplements that might cause harm at certain doses to some people? Scientists do not know for certain. Because green tea has been drunk for thousands of years, supplements consisting of its concentrated form are regulated in the US and Europe as foods, not medicines. That means t…
They might classify them as food but they’re not Whole Food. There’s a large difference between eating a whole food and taking out a single molecule from something and wrapping it in a bunch of filler material. The pills they showed looked like powdered tea, but I’d bet he was taking something much more concentrated.
Re: Green tea supplements ruined my liver
#16Good grief! Why not drink green tea if you're interested in the positive effects of green tea? Apart from its positive effects it's a fantastic drink.
I wish we knew the equivalent amount of green tea he was taking.
Re: Green tea supplements ruined my liver
#17Did anyone else see a dosage that he was actually taking for these green tea supplements? It seems to be missing from the article but is arguably the most important point. Anything is poisonous to the body in high enough doses. Does the producer of these capsules (apparently Vitacost) specify a maximum dosage? If so, was Jim exceeding this recommendation? Or well under it? Come on BBC.
>Come on BBC. You expect journalists actually doing their job in 2018? Get with the times.
BBC has really good articles compared to other websites,
and the website is also miles ahead of the others news sites that are posted here.
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#18In This is Going to Hurt: Secret Diaries of a Junior Doctor (strongly recommended) there is a part where a consultant has a rant about "natural not meaning safe" and mentions a plant in his garden that would kill you if you sat under it for ten minutes...
Re: Green tea supplements ruined my liver
#19Did anyone else see a dosage that he was actually taking for these green tea supplements? It seems to be missing from the article but is arguably the most important point. Anything is poisonous to the body in high enough doses. Does the producer of these capsules (apparently Vitacost) specify a maximum dosage? If so, was Jim exceeding this recommendation? Or well under it? Come on BBC.
From Vitacost's website: Vitacost Green Tea Extract Green Tea Extract (leaf) standardized to 98% polyphenols (490 mg), 80% catechins (400 mg), 50% epigallocatechin-3P-gallate (EGCG)(250 mg) Amount Per Serving: 500mg https://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-green-tea-extract-standard...
Study on the effects of EGCG on diabetic mice: https://www.nature.com/articles/srep40617
"In conclusion, despite of its well known favorable effects, EGCG could paradoxically exhibit nephro-toxic effect in the presence of diabetes"
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