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Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by tracker1 »

joering2 wrote: post #21
tnolet wrote: post #14

Just started using the new Kubernetes offering on Digital Ocean. Still in Beta but works pretty good. If this is a sign for how they will do databases, I'm all ears. Add CI/CD and you have a Heroku competitor.

Glad you are having fun working on your after hours side project with DO. But please DO NOT host with DO if you plan to run a real production systems, build a company, hire people etc. I have never found a better company to spun off a server and play with some settings but when their algorithm decides there is something fishy, bye bye your account, servers, backups, you never going to see any of this ever again. The…

It may be worthwhile to have a blog post with a (LOT) more details (maybe any correspondence with DO included) and include a link to that.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by js4ever »

joering2 wrote: post #21
tnolet wrote: post #14

Just started using the new Kubernetes offering on Digital Ocean. Still in Beta but works pretty good. If this is a sign for how they will do databases, I'm all ears. Add CI/CD and you have a Heroku competitor.

Glad you are having fun working on your after hours side project with DO. But please DO NOT host with DO if you plan to run a real production systems, build a company, hire people etc. I have never found a better company to spun off a server and play with some settings but when their algorithm decides there is something fishy, bye bye your account, servers, backups, you never going to see any of this ever again. The…

This is exactly why i'm ok with paying 10x more for AWS. You can speak with them in few minutes, you have a grace period before service shutdown unlike ovh, DO and most others

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by thirstybanach »

joering2 wrote: post #21
tnolet wrote: post #14

Just started using the new Kubernetes offering on Digital Ocean. Still in Beta but works pretty good. If this is a sign for how they will do databases, I'm all ears. Add CI/CD and you have a Heroku competitor.

Glad you are having fun working on your after hours side project with DO. But please DO NOT host with DO if you plan to run a real production systems, build a company, hire people etc. I have never found a better company to spun off a server and play with some settings but when their algorithm decides there is something fishy, bye bye your account, servers, backups, you never going to see any of this ever again. The…

I've had an experience like this but with less consequence. I was running a server years ago that scraped information from various cryptocurrency sites and it was flagged as fraudulent. Support refused to say what the issue was or offer temporary access to the server for data retrieval. This wasn't some cowboy unbounded crawler either, it was making very specific requests, around 1000 a day for around two weeks, probably less than an average day of web browsing for the majority of people.

I'll never use DO for anything, even testing and mucking around. At the very least you would have to provide excessive evidence of identity if you get flagged by their magic algorithm, and if they restore your service it could be after days of wrangling with support (it took support over a day to answer my support tickets at the time).

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by wjdp »

thinkshiv wrote: post #34
bonsai80 wrote: post #9

I don't see any mention of the cost. Is that listed somewhere?

Hi there, this is Shiv - I am the VP of Product at DigitalOcean. Thanks for asking about pricing. We are still working out the pricing details. I can tell you it won't be just the cost of the Droplet because this is a managed service with lots of additional features that you would not get with the current Droplet product.

This is something that has put me off services like this for personal / open source projects. I'm time and cost limited and usage will be minimal so both the expense of a managed service and the time cost of setting up my own are both unattractive.

Would DO be open to a limited 'hobby tier' for this set at the price of the droplet?

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by thecus »

greglindahl wrote: post #79
joering2 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was only technical adviser for a while, but I know they did offsite backups but its hard to have these up to a minute. So they tried to recover the latest version of their DB so that truly no records are missing. Edit: my original post got downvoted severely in few minutes from posting. Hello DigitalOcean staff and/or owners!

How did you figure out that DigitalOcean staff and/or owners were the downvoters?

Don't participate on HN a lot, but I couldn't resist responding to the GDPR violation in the same line as engaging with the NY Attorney General.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by jarland »

esistgut wrote: post #29
joering2 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glad you are having fun working on your after hours side project with DO. But please DO NOT host with DO if you plan to run a real production systems, build a company, hire people etc. I have never found a better company to spun off a server and play with some settings but when their algorithm decides there is something fishy, bye bye your account, servers, backups, you never going to see any of this ever again. The…

Our team is currently migrating our whole production system from Linode and GCP to Digital Ocean. Your comment is raising warnings, I'd like to hear more from DO itself.

I'd love to chat with you. If you have some time, send an email over to jdonnell@digitalocean.com and let's talk. I promise nothing but honesty, transparency, ideas, and maybe a few laughs :)

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by gamblor956 »

joering2 wrote: post #40
Scarbutt wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is bad, but your data should have also resided somewhere outside DO.

I was only technical adviser for a while, but I know they did offsite backups but its hard to have these up to a minute. So they tried to recover the latest version of their DB so that truly no records are missing. Edit: my original post got downvoted severely in few minutes from posting. Hello DigitalOcean staff and/or owners!

I downvoted your original comment because it was a bunch of unsupported conspiracy BS and at least one of your claims was directly refuted by the company itself.

If you have a real complaint against DO, please provide specific allegations and support for those allegations.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by donmcronald »

drchiu wrote: post #73
jarland wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey friends! My name is Jarland and I'm on the support team at DigitalOcean. We do have a number of fraud and abuse algorithms, and when we are alerted to potentially fraudulent activity, we take appropriate action, which includes notifying and communicating with individual users. I also want to confirm that we are fully compliant with GDPR.

Thanks @jarland for chiming into this thread. I love how DO has evolved over the past several years and want to comment about that. I use DO for production and have gradually migrated my infrastructure away from AWS and Linode to Digital Ocean as the platform improved. Just a quick question: If the algorithm is triggered (regardless if it is a false positive or not) and the user is notified, what happens with the dro…

Yeah, I want to know if the execution is before or after the trial. Part of DO's appeal to me is the simplicity and predictable (low) cost. It would be really great if they published well defined account termination procedures. Do I get a phone call? An email? Do I get to respond before being disconnected? Is there an appeals process?

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by sdegutis »

Scarbutt wrote: post #20
sdegutis wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have a relatively small set of users, setting up your own database is usually as simple as setting it up locally and you won't need shards or anything. And setting up backups is as simple as adding a cron job that calls your backup shell script, which you can test separately. And by "small set of users", consider what SQLite's own website[1] says: Generally speaking, any site that gets fewer than 100K hits/day…

Agree sqlite is great and >80% of websites will probably run fine on it, but 100K hits/day is pretty vague, does that mean 1 hit/sec or 3 hits/sec during peak time, etc...?

The next paragraph gives a little more context:

    The SQLite website (https://www.sqlite.org/) uses SQLite
    itself, of course, and as of this writing (2015) it handles
    about 400K to 500K HTTP requests per day, about 15-20% of
    which are dynamic pages touching the database. Dynamic
    content uses about 200 SQL statements per webpage. This
    setup runs on a single VM that shares a physical server
    with 23 others and yet still keeps the load average below
    0.1 most of the time.
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