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Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 too little, too late

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Re: Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 too little, too late

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I found the UI unappealing and the heavy use of rotation effects amateurish.

Is this the best they can do? Draw rectangles...

Vertical list of applications??? Microsoft what have you been smoking?

And sorry but I just can't shake the feeling that the UI looks like some half-baked demo.

Microsoft should have just copied the iPhone and Android, they would have had a lot more success.

Re: Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 too little, too late

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I found the UI unappealing and the heavy use of rotation effects amateurish. Is this the best they can do? Draw rectangles... Vertical list of applications??? Microsoft what have you been smoking? And sorry but I just can't shake the feeling that the UI looks like some half-baked demo. Microsoft should have just copied the iPhone and Android, they would have had a lot more success.

If they had done that, I am sure you would have commented here saying it looks like a cheap imitation. Have you actually used the phone?

Re: Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 too little, too late

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I found the UI unappealing and the heavy use of rotation effects amateurish. Is this the best they can do? Draw rectangles... Vertical list of applications??? Microsoft what have you been smoking? And sorry but I just can't shake the feeling that the UI looks like some half-baked demo. Microsoft should have just copied the iPhone and Android, they would have had a lot more success.

If they had done that, I am sure you would have commented here saying it looks like a cheap imitation. Have you actually used the phone?

That's my problem with Microsoft software ... they get hyped months or years in advance with nobody actually using the damn product.

And when a product is hyped, you've got to expect a backslash when it doesn't support basic functionality people got accustomed to.

I also think that if third-party integration like Twitter will be less than what Facebook got ... WinMo 7 is basically screwed.

Re: Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 too little, too late

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Even if Windows Phone 7 is not significantly better than the iPhone and Android competition is a good thing, right? I've played with a device in store and it seems OK-to-good in comparison to my iPhone 4 (which is quite good). I think consumers will be better off if Windows Phone 7 is a credible phone platform, regardless of whether they actually ever use it because it will keep iPhone and Android improving.

Re: Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 too little, too late

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If they had done that, I am sure you would have commented here saying it looks like a cheap imitation. Have you actually used the phone?

That's my problem with Microsoft software ... they get hyped months or years in advance with nobody actually using the damn product. And when a product is hyped, you've got to expect a backslash when it doesn't support basic functionality people got accustomed to. I also think that if third-party integration like Twitter will be less than what Facebook got ... WinMo 7 is basically screwed.

My understanding is that any app can register itself for any of the hubs, so I don't see any technical reason why a twitter app can't go in the people hub.

No clue whose over-sight it is that the twitter app isn't already there.

Re: Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 too little, too late

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Even if Windows Phone 7 is not significantly better than the iPhone and Android competition is a good thing, right? I've played with a device in store and it seems OK-to-good in comparison to my iPhone 4 (which is quite good). I think consumers will be better off if Windows Phone 7 is a credible phone platform, regardless of whether they actually ever use it because it will keep iPhone and Android improving.

There is still Blackberry, webOS, and Nokia. Already lots of competition. Adding Microsoft doesn't hurt but it's probably not helping much at this point.

Also, I think Apple and Google know they need to improve, regardless of the competition. They are both strong players vying to be the #1 in smart phones.

Re: Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 too little, too late

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What really concerns me about Windows Mobile 7 is the damage it's going to do among mobile web applications. You see, right now, if you want to do a mobile webapp, you can live in HTML5 land with working scripting, working DOM, good CSS3-support and all other goodies.

Sure, there are differences between mobile browsers, but all major platforms are now using webkit of some sort (and for those that don't, Fennec is available which also works really well), so that's a solid foundation to build upon.

And now WP7 arrives, brining us not IE9, not IE8, but IE7 (which by now is 4 years old already) in all its glory.

Up until today, you could get away by just ignoring WM6 and pointing the rare user of that platform to Opera Mobile, but now, there's no more Opera Mobile and the platform is about to get a lot more popular, so your app better works in IE7 too.

This means to either provide two versions of your app, or go back to what we have to do on the desktop too, which is progressive enhancement which sometimes can really destroy the quality of your code and will, again, costs hours upon hours of wasted effort (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1828586).

Thanks Microsoft. Much appreciated.

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