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Motorola and iFixit partner to sell phone repair kits

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Re: Motorola and iFixit partner to sell phone repair kits

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Post by xbmcuser »

akerro wrote: post #30
lower wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, Motorola is very slow with software updates. My G5 plus is currently still on Android 7.0 on the June (!) 2018 security patch level and this is usual. I think that an update to 8.1 is around the corner, but they've promised an update to Oreo for over a year now...

> My G5 plus is currently still on Android 7.0 on the June (!) 2018 security patch level. I think that an update to 8.1 Not as bad as most Samsung phones, I got no update at all to Samsung S4 and S4 mini and these were the last Samsungs I bought. I have Moto G4 now and a few weeks ago I got patches for last BT and WiFi KRACK attacks, better late then never I guess? My next phone will be Motorola too, it's bloat free,…

Samsung is now a lot better with security updates specially for S and note series. My S8+ got Sept 18 android security update in September. And I got my screen fixed at a Samsung repair shop at +15% of the wholesale price of the screen on AliExpress. They even replaced the battery under warranty.

Re: Motorola and iFixit partner to sell phone repair kits

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Post by craftyguy »

iaml wrote: post #31
craftyguy wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only after apple was caught red-handed slowing down older phones to entice users to upgrade.

And they said sorry and let users disable it. FWIW disabling it makes my phone turn off when I'm using it in cold so they had their reasons. Not only that, they released ios12 which makes my iphone 6 feel like new again, which is unprecedented in other OSes.

So it's ok to screw over customers as long as you apologize after they find out?

Re: Motorola and iFixit partner to sell phone repair kits

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Post by balls187 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #32
bloopernova wrote: post #10

I have a lot of respect for iFixit. They at least appear to have their heads screwed on right, and the tools I've bought from them do really seem to be good quality. My only recent "complex" task that needed their tools was adding a hybrid water cooler to a 1080ti GPU. Their stuff was great, and their customer service has been good too. (EDIT: I meant to say, the addition went well due to their tools, good quality st…

What does T-Mobile know about hardware repairability? They’re a carrier aren’t they? They don’t have anything to do with any hardware.

T-Mobile is an UNcarrier.

And to the extent they can, providing top level customer service is one of their biggest selling points.

Re: Motorola and iFixit partner to sell phone repair kits

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Post by omnifischer »

ingenieroariel wrote: post #19
omnifischer wrote: post #11

FYI: Motorola is also friendly towards ROM development. You can easily unlock bootloader and slap lineageOS/AOSP. Of course, for people from US - it may not work if you have a carrier branded phone. https://motorola-global-en-uk.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bo...

I bought it in Colombia and got the code from Motorola to unlock it, nothing seemed US or carrier specific as the initial code was obtained via adb.

A majority of hn-readers are from US.

Re: Motorola and iFixit partner to sell phone repair kits

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Post by 24gttghh »

iaml wrote: post #31
craftyguy wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only after apple was caught red-handed slowing down older phones to entice users to upgrade.

And they said sorry and let users disable it. FWIW disabling it makes my phone turn off when I'm using it in cold so they had their reasons. Not only that, they released ios12 which makes my iphone 6 feel like new again, which is unprecedented in other OSes.

Wait, so how do we disable it? I thought all the did was add "battery statistics" one could view?

Re: Motorola and iFixit partner to sell phone repair kits

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Post by Nullabillity »

omnifischer wrote: post #11

FYI: Motorola is also friendly towards ROM development. You can easily unlock bootloader and slap lineageOS/AOSP. Of course, for people from US - it may not work if you have a carrier branded phone. https://motorola-global-en-uk.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bo...

Meh, that requires you to create an account and ask them for permission to unlock. I'd rather take a Nexus or OnePlus where it's a much simpler offline process (allow unlocking in dev settings, `adb reboot bootloader && fastboot oem unlock`).

Re: Motorola and iFixit partner to sell phone repair kits

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Post by Nullabillity »

thekingofh wrote: post #37
ingenieroariel wrote: post #17

I recently got a Moto S2 Play and went the LineageOS route with no Google Apps. With no IM apps installed I made it my house's router (small house) and 5-7 devices can happily connect to it. I really recommend it. Lately I have been finally understanding how Open Source and right to repair go hand in hand.

Cool, how did you connect it to the outer network?

Presumably the WAN connection would be over LTE.

Re: Motorola and iFixit partner to sell phone repair kits

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Post by balls187 »

craftyguy wrote: post #29
nerdponx wrote: post #8

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FWIW, you can now get an official iPhone battery replacement for $30 on the "last-gen" models, or for free with Applecare. https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/battery-power It looks like on some issues, we still have market power.

Only after apple was caught red-handed slowing down older phones to entice users to upgrade.

That's a gross misrepresentation of fact.

Apple engineers slowed the CPU in the phone, in order to keep battery life reasonable, and prevent the phone from restarting when worn batteries couldn't deliver power. Windows does this with laptops.

Apple's mistake was not disclosing it. There an argument for user experience that advocates making the best choice for the user and not over burdening them with options.

Re: Motorola and iFixit partner to sell phone repair kits

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Post by Retric »

craftyguy wrote: post #42
iaml wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And they said sorry and let users disable it. FWIW disabling it makes my phone turn off when I'm using it in cold so they had their reasons. Not only that, they released ios12 which makes my iphone 6 feel like new again, which is unprecedented in other OSes.

So it's ok to screw over customers as long as you apologize after they find out?

It's not screwing over customers as a slow phone is better than a phone that turns off at the same time.

At most you can say they where trying to fix a hardware issue with software which is never a clean solution.

Re: Motorola and iFixit partner to sell phone repair kits

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Post by zubspace »

I own a fairphone 1 and after I dropped it once I was able to order a new screen. With instructions made by by the fairphone team I was able to fix my phone.

I'm bitter though, because they soon switched development to fairphone 2 in a higher price class and I'm left with android 4.2.2. Many new apps on the play store stop being compatible.

I believe, something like this is only viable, if the phone maker guarantees software updates for at least 5 to 10 years. Otherwise all that talk about environment and all is just hot air.

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