Ask any owner of an iPhone X how to turn off their phone...bet most won't know how.
iPhones are hard to use
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#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, but honestly, where does Apple list the instructions for using iOS as well as the preinstalled apps? They believe their product is so easy to understand that people will just get it. But then they go and change things like where they put the autobrightness switch and even seasoned iOS users have to hunt for it. Or go on Reddit. They just changed the battery page in settings. Where's the tutorial? An obvious place…
In the user manual. Which is, btw, one of the very best user manuals you will ever see. It's very easy to find, and the fact you haven't found it tells me you probably didn't bother searching, since almost any Google search finds it instantly: https://support.apple.com/manuals/iphone And no: Apple does not "believe their product is so easy to understand that people will just get it". You just made that up. It's...sur…
> And no: Apple does not "believe their product is so easy to understand that people will just get it". You just made that up.
Stop being hostile, dude.
Poll a hundred iOS users and ask how many know there's a manual.
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#203One thing I have come across in trying to explain phones to older people is that they have difficulty grasping the difference of cellular vs. WiFi and where they can and can't use data. I have a parent who is terrified to use the internet while on WiFi because they don't want to get a huge bill at the end of the month. I have done some explaining to reduce that anxiety and I'd like to tell them not to worry about it,…
Get people onto unlimited data plans with a limited amount of fast data. Most (all?) US carriers have a plan like that, although I don't know how common they are overseas. You can usually pick how much fast data you want, and if you go over, it's not the end of the world. Sometimes I've had phones that didn't have matching lte bands, so the 'slow' data rate was faster than what I could manage anyway.
We do have that, but it’s the most expensive “unlimited” plan that does that. By “unlimited” they mean 10gb and then slow speeds! :)
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Adding two fields to iOS to enter your billing cycle date and your monthly data limit seems trivial in the grand scheme of things. I believe Android does this? Perhaps I’m wrong. Also simple would be intelligent alerts for data usage, including alerts for apps that are known to use large amounts of data. (i.e. “Are you sure you want to use Netflix while not connected to WiFi? This may cause you to exceed your data li…
>Also simple would be intelligent alerts for data usage, including alerts for apps that are known to use large amounts of data Besides a user curated version of this, how would your phone know which apps use a lot of data? Sure, we can probably knock out youtube/Netflix/spotify, but then: 1. You really don't think Youtube/Netflix/Spotify are going to complain that Apple, by default, discourages people from using thei…
I've not used iOS, but I assume it keeps track of which app uses how much dafa, the same as Android and Windows phone do?
If your phone knows about your data plan, it could prompt you when you're using data at a problematic rate -- although special pricing does make things weird. Anyway, it could have a button to not show for that app / ever again in case you don't care.
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#205That title font is hard to read.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem lies in what's semi-advanced to one is critical or basic to many others. Apple has been known to hide (aka. make subtle) basic operations. How often have you wanted to load a page in 'desktop mode' in mobile Safari? It's there, just invisibly so. The UI does not teach in the name of clean/minimal design which is Apple's way: form over function. Edit: it's the equivalent to not putting keyboard shortcut ke…
Personally, I use the "Request Desktop Mode" features lots! I also moved it so it's the very first option listed for quick access. But I wouldn't do that on my grandma's phone... While 'desktop mode' is super useful the HN crowd, I don't think most users would benefit from it. A non-technical user is probably only minimally aware that mobile and desktop sites might have different features at all. And even when you do…
> I also moved it so it's the very first option listed for quick access
It took me a second to realize that "Request Desktop Site" is available in the Share Sheet. I use it by long-pressing the refresh button.
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#207I have been an android-windows user for the longest time, and using Apple devices is among the most difficult things I've had to do. I have used windows phone, linux, chrome OS, Blackberry's palm-like UI over the years, but I have gotten the hang of each over a small period of time. Apple devices however, are simply counter intuitive for me. Apple seems to design UI for 2 types of people. 1. Old Apple users 2. The pe…
When iPhones first came out they were a dream to use - but I think that was largely because they didn't do very much. Picking up an iPhone 3GS (the first one I saw in real life) the interface was fast, intuitive and accessible. However, as more features were added, Apple's desire to keep things appearing to be simple and clean, and their refusal to increase screen size, meant features get hidden away, behind swipes,…
Are you joking? On the iPhone 3 I couldn't even copy paste....
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#208A couple of things I absolutely hate about Apple's products: 1. Whenever switching an app in iOS and going back to the same app I don't know if I'll find it in the same state as before, even after only few seconds. It's unbelievably annoying to read an article opened in embedded browser in Facebook app, check something quickly in Chrome and be forced to look for the same article again. 2. Some apps don't allow me to…
> Whenever switching an app in iOS and going back to the same app I don't know if I'll find it in the same state as before, even after only few seconds. It's unbelievably annoying to read an article opened in embedded browser in Facebook app, check something quickly in Chrome and be forced to look for the same article again.
Apple would very much like you to have the experience that apps do not change when you leave them. There are a couple ways that apps break this model, though: if they use a lot of memory, iOS will kill them in the background. In any case, apps are supposed to have state restoration to get back to where they were when you last left it, but few apps implement this correctly.
> Some apps don't allow me to open a url in Chrome, for some reason I have to do it in Safari. And why can't I delete Safari altogether? How's it's different from Microsoft and IE in the 90s?
Safari is the system browser. I believe the difference from Microsoft is that iOS is not a monopoly?
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Adding two fields to iOS to enter your billing cycle date and your monthly data limit seems trivial in the grand scheme of things. I believe Android does this? Perhaps I’m wrong. Also simple would be intelligent alerts for data usage, including alerts for apps that are known to use large amounts of data. (i.e. “Are you sure you want to use Netflix while not connected to WiFi? This may cause you to exceed your data li…
>Also simple would be intelligent alerts for data usage, including alerts for apps that are known to use large amounts of data Besides a user curated version of this, how would your phone know which apps use a lot of data? Sure, we can probably knock out youtube/Netflix/spotify, but then: 1. You really don't think Youtube/Netflix/Spotify are going to complain that Apple, by default, discourages people from using thei…
Yes, there are a lot of different considerations. But I have faith that Apple could figure it out. They're smart.
With respect to Apple collecting data about bandwidth usage - I would have assumed that they are already collecting that information from me on an anonymized basis.
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#210In the modern day I would really avoid using "autism" as a negative descriptor or analogy in published works like this, as much as I may say it in private contexts to friends.
100% agree. I stopped reading when I saw that. What exactly is "Windows autism" exactly? My autistic son would like to know... And I would encourage you not to say it in private contexts with friends either.