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Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by drb91 »

stephenr wrote: post #66
simias wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Leaving aside the religious aspect of the CoC which are probably going to be controversial the other rules are actually fairly common sense. A few that caught my eye: > Do not give way to anger. > Do not nurse a grudge. > Do not entertain deceit in your heart. > Do not give a false peace. > Do not swear, for fear of perjuring yourself. > Utter only truth from heart and mouth. > Do not return evil for evil. > Be not a…

> Respect your seniors How about just "respect people". I've literally seen how "respect your seniors" plays out in reality: any idea from new/junior team members is effectively ignored, because they're not 'senior' enough.

While you are correct that “respect people” is a better general purpose rule, you are throwing out the baby with the bath water: experience is valuable.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by drb91 »

HarryHirsch wrote: post #164
diddid wrote: post #70

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Seriously? The next point is “love your juniors” so what you are saying shouldn’t happen. But then again... I think loving your juniors usually ends up with HR.

Ah, but the original Latin has iuniores diligere , that's means "esteem highly", "regard with affection" & so on. Instead you have these age and gender silos in American society, and the silly sex jokes and the Pence Rule, it's worrisome for anyone who has to navigate through it.

What on earth are you talking about? Can you rephrase in a way that a reasonable person can follow?

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by [deleted] »

djsumdog wrote: post #86
stephenr wrote: post #66

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> Respect your seniors How about just "respect people". I've literally seen how "respect your seniors" plays out in reality: any idea from new/junior team members is effectively ignored, because they're not 'senior' enough.

I agree. Giving someone undue respect just because they're old is ageism. Some old people never really grew up and are still jerks (I plan on being one of them; getting my grumpy on). Respect everyone.

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Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by drb91 »

roguecoder wrote: post #140
drb91 wrote: post #121

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As an atheist, how could this possibly make someone mad?

People who hold religious beliefs that people following this code spent hundreds of years trying to stamp out with violence probably have a different context that people to whom it is merely irrelevant.

The CoC does not require religious belief in the least. They are secular rules.

By this same logic, we should reject all scientific research that predates nation state funding.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by stephenr »

drb91 wrote: post #171
stephenr wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Respect your seniors How about just "respect people". I've literally seen how "respect your seniors" plays out in reality: any idea from new/junior team members is effectively ignored, because they're not 'senior' enough.

While you are correct that “respect people” is a better general purpose rule, you are throwing out the baby with the bath water: experience is valuable.

I didn't say ignore senior opinions. I said don't ignore juniors.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by qbaqbaqba »

roguecoder wrote: post #135
runjake wrote: post #122

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Good news, the CoC is inclusive for you, with the following: "those who wish to participate" ... "are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that honors the overarching spirit of the rule, even if they disagree with specific details. Polite and professional discussion is always welcomed, from anyone ." In other words, calm down.

The overarching spirit of The Rule of St. Benedict is service to Christ.

So? What's wrong with that? Your service to humankind may as well be a service to Christ.

And you are the one to decide what server the Christ.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by qbaqbaqba »

iodiniemetra wrote: post #156
_pgmf wrote: post #128

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You wanna know how to tell if someone is an atheist? > I'm an atheist Oh wait, it doesn't matter -- they'll be sure to tell you.

When it's in relation to a post asking, "who's really excluded", I think it's appropriate.

No one is excluded.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by drb91 »

stephenr wrote: post #175
drb91 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While you are correct that “respect people” is a better general purpose rule, you are throwing out the baby with the bath water: experience is valuable.

I didn't say ignore senior opinions. I said don't ignore juniors.

Did you miss the rule about loving your juniors?

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by christophilus »

gotocake wrote: post #124
simias wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Leaving aside the religious aspect of the CoC which are probably going to be controversial the other rules are actually fairly common sense. A few that caught my eye: > Do not give way to anger. > Do not nurse a grudge. > Do not entertain deceit in your heart. > Do not give a false peace. > Do not swear, for fear of perjuring yourself. > Utter only truth from heart and mouth. > Do not return evil for evil. > Be not a…

yes, good rules, but as a CoC it’s a bit much, and very preachy. The phrase, “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” springs readily to mind. I hope the author is a saint.

> I hope the author is a saint.

Saint Benedict is a saint, last I checked.

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