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Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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post #87

An interesting mirroring of the popular CoCs these days. While they enshrine what one could call "San Francisco Democrat" values, this CoC enshrines christian conservative values. If you think value-based CoCs are fine, you shouldn't have a problem with this.

'Rule of Saint Francisco' :D

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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post #84
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see the religious part of this CoC as purely incidental to the source material (it being 15 centuries old and aimed at christian monks). It's clearly not meat to be taken serious, even though I'd agree with a lot of the common sense points listed. Now, being a bit annoyed at the religious implications is not being really angry and blowing things out of proportion. Being annoyed still leaves room for discussion. Wha…

I see the religious part as being the entire point, since it comes from a religious order. The very first rule is about loving a particular deity. If we were to go back in time and find these people, what do you think would offend them more, “I hold grudges” or “there is no god”?

I daresay that a difference in opinion like that would probably not trigger most people back in that age in the same manner it seems to do so now (on both sides - I'm not picking on one side here).

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

#134
post #87

An interesting mirroring of the popular CoCs these days. While they enshrine what one could call "San Francisco Democrat" values, this CoC enshrines christian conservative values. If you think value-based CoCs are fine, you shouldn't have a problem with this.

They're certainly Christian values, but they're not "conservative", at least not by the American definition. I'll point you to these tenets: * Relieve the poor. * Clothe the naked. * Visit the sick. ... those seem like "liberal values" to me, at least on the American spectrum.

I think they can be both - the liberal vs conservative part is merely the means by which you do so - do you vote small parts of other people's property to the task or do you donate your own property voluntarily to the task.

And lest this seem like a conservative jab - it is not intended in any such manner - I willingly admit that in those times the system worked completely different than it does now in ways that would create a great deal of consternation in both modern liberals AND conservatives.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

#135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

#1 on the list is: First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength. I'm an atheist - I am unable and unwilling to comply with this CoC. So yes, I would say that I am affected. Other well known religious folk in the foss world, such as Larry Wall, do not insist on this kind of exclusion.

Good news, the CoC is inclusive for you, with the following: "those who wish to participate" ... "are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that honors the overarching spirit of the rule, even if they disagree with specific details. Polite and professional discussion is always welcomed, from anyone ." In other words, calm down.

The overarching spirit of The Rule of St. Benedict is service to Christ.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

#1 on the list is: First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength. I'm an atheist - I am unable and unwilling to comply with this CoC. So yes, I would say that I am affected. Other well known religious folk in the foss world, such as Larry Wall, do not insist on this kind of exclusion.

Good news, the CoC is inclusive for you, with the following: "those who wish to participate" ... "are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that honors the overarching spirit of the rule, even if they disagree with specific details. Polite and professional discussion is always welcomed, from anyone ." In other words, calm down.

If the religious requirements of the CoC aren't going to be enforced, there's no reason for them. They exist because Richard Hipp is religious.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

#137
I can't wait to see people get reported for merely being slightly afraid of hell rather than in actual dread of hell.

Of course, since there's no enforcement mechanism this seems to be just an attempt to get credit with customers without actually caring about the question they were really asking.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

#138

Regardless if this is a joke or not, this is not acceptable, you can't put religious things in the code of conduct. Even if it is a joke, it is still awful and I wish that it gets removed quickly.

Which code of conduct was that rule in? :)

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

#139
post #100

If the code of conduct angers you, stop and think -- how did you feel one minute before you read the CoC? Is the problem really the CoC, or is it your collection of beliefs that is causing the problem? Furthermore, are you even affected? Do you contribute bug reports or patches? Follow the SQLite mailing list? Is anything here designed to prevent you from continuing to do so? SQLite's author is a spiritual guy. There…

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Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

#140
post #121
post #10

Yes, it's meant as a joking stab at those who seemingly cannot live without having a CoC everywhere. Especially in projects they do not actually participate in. Now watch as this gets blown out of proportion, because this will make some people really, really angry. Id be very surprised if this stays up actually.

As an atheist, how could this possibly make someone mad?

People who hold religious beliefs that people following this code spent hundreds of years trying to stamp out with violence probably have a different context that people to whom it is merely irrelevant.
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