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Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by pdimitar »

mehrdadn wrote: post #78
pdimitar wrote: post #25

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Personal goal: gather ~$13,500 and buy the maxed out iMac Pro 2017 -- 4TB SSD, 128GB RAM, Xeon W (18 cores, 2.3Ghz, turbo boost to 4.3GHz, 42.75MB cache), 10Gb ethernet link, 4 USB Type-C ports, 4 Thunderbolt 3 slots, amazing display. I view it as an at least 7 years of investment, if not 11-12 even. (Especially now that macOS has a dark theme as well.) I have a very keen interest in Linux and the people who make it…

> $13,500 > I view it as an at least 7 years of investment, if not 11-12 even. Hmm, that's equivalent to spending between $1-2k to get a new computer every single year. That sounds like an awful investment to me, and I don't think most people would consider it a good investment to have to buy a $1-2k computer every single year. How do you see that as a good investment?

I did the math and even if I don't make that much money as the other guy here in this thread, I view it as an investment in terms of a peace of mind and future-proofing.

Computing is plateauing. Provided the machine is durable and doesn't break for at least 10 years, it makes a lot of sense to have something that you won't have to upgrade for a while -- and be very well prepared for everything your work can throw at you.

Plus, I also tried to calculate the price of that iMac Pro if I assemble a similar machine myself. It came out to almost the same price so Apple is not actually charging a lot of premium on that machine in particular. They are more interested in having you as a long-term customer there (and vendor-lock you) and are not charging you exorbitant amounts of money just because -- at least not in that instance.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by pdimitar »

vbezhenar wrote: post #97
pdimitar wrote: post #25

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Personal goal: gather ~$13,500 and buy the maxed out iMac Pro 2017 -- 4TB SSD, 128GB RAM, Xeon W (18 cores, 2.3Ghz, turbo boost to 4.3GHz, 42.75MB cache), 10Gb ethernet link, 4 USB Type-C ports, 4 Thunderbolt 3 slots, amazing display. I view it as an at least 7 years of investment, if not 11-12 even. (Especially now that macOS has a dark theme as well.) I have a very keen interest in Linux and the people who make it…

I don't think that iMac would last for 12 years. I would save that money for Mac Pro which they promised to be good.

Well I don't have the money now so I am sitting and waiting anyway. :D

I will keep watching and observing. Last I read, the latest Mac Pro is noisier than the iMac Pro which you have to fully load all its CPU cores and both videocards to even hear. To me the [lack of] noise is extremely important in a machine. (That's why I spent $400 on a PC box, CPU cooler and the most silent fans I could find, last year.)

That, plus the fact that it's an all-in-one machine. One gets sick of reshuffling their desk periodically, I gotta tell you.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by pdimitar »

pram wrote: post #45
pdimitar wrote: post #25

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Personal goal: gather ~$13,500 and buy the maxed out iMac Pro 2017 -- 4TB SSD, 128GB RAM, Xeon W (18 cores, 2.3Ghz, turbo boost to 4.3GHz, 42.75MB cache), 10Gb ethernet link, 4 USB Type-C ports, 4 Thunderbolt 3 slots, amazing display. I view it as an at least 7 years of investment, if not 11-12 even. (Especially now that macOS has a dark theme as well.) I have a very keen interest in Linux and the people who make it…

Build a hackintosh imo.

Too much work. Had my fair share of building PCs or flashing ROMs on Android. When I buy an iMac Pro I will be 100% Apple-invested. I got tired of tinkering on minor stuff, I want to build things and have small logistical resistance while doing so.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by pdimitar »

wvenable wrote: post #74
pdimitar wrote: post #25

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Personal goal: gather ~$13,500 and buy the maxed out iMac Pro 2017 -- 4TB SSD, 128GB RAM, Xeon W (18 cores, 2.3Ghz, turbo boost to 4.3GHz, 42.75MB cache), 10Gb ethernet link, 4 USB Type-C ports, 4 Thunderbolt 3 slots, amazing display. I view it as an at least 7 years of investment, if not 11-12 even. (Especially now that macOS has a dark theme as well.) I have a very keen interest in Linux and the people who make it…

Ask Mac users what their favorite version of OS X is and it more than likely won't be the latest one. But I agree Windows is descending -- they fired the guy the righted the ship and made Windows 7. For Apple, it's always hard to be sure anyone their really cares about OS X and professional hardware.

Truth be told, I don't care much about the aesthetics per se -- with the exception of the dark theme, that has to be the best thing to introduce in a while!

Windows UI has deficiencies, all Linux WMs have some deficiencies (although some are unbelievably customizable and I like them), macOS is no exception as well. I don't care. I want it to work stably, predictably and be somewhat pretty. macOS ticks the boxes. Windows used to but it's very idiosyncratic lately. And the OS is just somewhat slow even on a very beefy PC where games can't go below 120 FPS... and your OS still manages to lag. Not cool.

In any case, I am not under the illusion that the iMac Pro + macOS will be the "perfect" machine and OS. Not at all. But between getting tired of tinkering with minor crap, UX inconsistency, lags and software compatibility to me the Apple ecosystem is the best compromise. Not trying to convince anyone though, simply explaining my thought process that led me to my decision.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by Slartie »

acct1771 wrote: post #139
Slartie wrote: post #82

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I actually bought a license a lot of years ago because I had been using it for many more years already, always clicking that nag screen away, and some day I realized that I would be totally hosed on Windows if there was no WinRAR because it really is the only compression tool that packs good format support with a bearable user interface. 7-zip is okay on the format side since they added some of the newer high-efficie…

...there's a 7-Zip UI? I take it you're doing more than is offered in the right-click menu?

Sure. Replacing single files deep down in some directory hierarchy in an archive. Compressing bigger amounts of files as efficient and fast as possible, so I want to customize a lot of parameters of the algorithm. Extracting many archives into separate or a common directory. Verifying archive integrity because something seems to be damaged. Encrypting stuff when compressing.

I like to use a good UI for that stuff when I'm on a graphical system like Windows anyway, and WinRAR is consistently better at that than 7-Zip.

I even seriously miss WinRAR when working on MacOS. Does anybody have any good suggestions for archive managers (may also be expensive ones, I don't care much if they are really good) with similar UI and functionality as WinRAR on MacOS?

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by WorldMaker »

gmueckl wrote: post #70
dx87 wrote: post #55

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I know it was an error on my part, but I lost an updated password database file because of unexpected behavior with the Windows file explorer. I had mainly been working out of a single folder, so I didn't realize the next time that I opened the file explorer that it was showing me "quick access" since the file list was populated with the contents of the one folder I was using. I dragged the updated database file to t…

This shows what a steamimg pile of incoherent features and behaviours the Windows Explorer has been gradually turned into since Windows 7. It is quite hard for average users to coax that tool into showing an actually honest content of some directory on the hard drive. There are so many abstractions, redirections, alternative view and on the fly translations (only obvious with languages other than English) in there th…

Since Windows 7?

Quick Access (aka Favorites) has been around since XP and default on in Explorer since Vista, though yes some of the views have changed after 7, this particular bug is possible in Vista and 7.

The Windows Explorer being an "object explorer" that doesn't necessarily show physical objects but can also show logical objects that are "folder-like" is a design/architecture that dates back all the way to Windows 95 (and has always been seen in places like the old Control Panel).

"Gradually turned into since Windows 7" is pretty much "has always been since Windows 95", sorry to say.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by WorldMaker »

Spooky23 wrote: post #127
jsgo wrote: post #9

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I agree with a lot of this, but I think if we are talking updates as upgrades, the industry and consumers forced their hands with fast update cycles with meaningful feature adds. Not excusing what is happening here, they allowed it to be released, but I do think they were forced into the current position rather than took it on their own.

That’s the Microsoft line, but it’s bullshit. The company squandered like 5 years on the Windows 8 disaster, which was a failure based 100% on Microsoft pushing forward with a bad strategy. There’s still a PC on every desk, and some helpless saps are scrambling to upgrade from Windows 7 in 2018. Nobody, anywhere is or was pining for high tempo Windows changes. What I’m seeing is that more and more institutional custo…

The real disaster was XP. Windows 8 was a relatively straightforward push forward from where Windows 7 was at the time. It just didn't get that chance at a benefit of such doubt because the vast majority of (especially corporate) users weren't even trying to upgrade to Windows 8 from Windows 7, they were still trying to wrap their heads around upgrading out of Windows XP before Microsoft dropped an overly-generous run of decades of security updates.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by pdimitar »

windowsworkstoo wrote: post #95
mehrdadn wrote: post #78

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> $13,500 > I view it as an at least 7 years of investment, if not 11-12 even. Hmm, that's equivalent to spending between $1-2k to get a new computer every single year. That sounds like an awful investment to me, and I don't think most people would consider it a good investment to have to buy a $1-2k computer every single year. How do you see that as a good investment?

Not the OP but I bill around that per day, so the investment would only be a days worth of billable time to stay cutting edge, so makes sense in that perspective.

Funny username by the way. :)

Let me just be really honest and say: I envy you. I am working hard to become as good in sales.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by snupples »

JoshuaAshton wrote: post #102
snupples wrote: post #86

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There's an LTS version of win 10 without the constant feature updates. Do you actually support desktop Windows in any of those industries with mission critical desktops? If so, you need to educate yourself. If not, your rant is coming from an uninformed position.

Just cause something says LTSB/C, it doesn't mean it doesn't have the same bugs of the update it was branched from. The LTSB/C is a joke, it's literally just the regular release with Cortana and other garbage removed.

It's on a completely different release schedule. Sure anything can have bugs but this is not going to get bugs introduced through feature-adds. It doesn't get these feature updates. It's stable. This is the entire point. You test and validate before your deploy and then you deploy and it remains stable.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

beagle3 wrote: post #87
Animats wrote: post #44

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I don't. I have one Windows 7 machine left. Windows 7 was peak Microsoft. Between trying to make desktop look like mobile and adding built-in spyware and ads, it's been downhill since then.

MacOS works very well. And if you don’t like Apple hardware, so do many Linux distributions (Ubuntu is very popular and easy to get support for), and even FreeBSD and OpenBSD if you are willing to put in more time. Most people are better served by NOT windows. Using Win10 without a specific program that isn’t available for macOS/Linux is bordering on masochism.

> Most people are better served by NOT windows.

It sucks that as a gamer, I'm basically forced to use Windows.

If I could run Ubuntu without worrying about game compatibility, I'd switch in a heartbeat.

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