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Re: Repair Café

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Post by zhrvoj »

lavayya wrote: post #47
zhrvoj wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This bad as it can be. While everybody charges for everything, for thin air, repairs should be free...yeah..and repairman should donate their money they didn't earn to the other people.

I go to the local repair cafe about every other month . Almost everything people bring would othersise be thrown out and replaced by a new item, not repaired by a professiinal repairman. The people "working" there do so because repairing is fun for them, they like the puzzles, and they mostly do it for ecological reasons. I go with my son, who loves seeing what electronics look like on the inside and how they work. W…

Do you still think this repairman shouldn't charge you or receive fair salary for his work? My opinion is that Repair cafe is brought to you by big companies trying to influence on independent service tech. For example, if you have coding problem you cannot solve, you will probably hire some freelancer, and you will be charged of course. Because that's what they do for living. Even if you don't want to mill you own coffe (which should not be problem for 21st century man), you will pay to get ground coffee. I even saw artists statement and it says like this: "I'm an artist, but this doesn't mean I'll work for free." Why nobody expects from them to work for free because it's fun? I don't mean people who decided by their own, to work something or sometimes for free, but public initiative...?

Re: Repair Café

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Post by acd »

I am starting to shift my perspective when buying things. New perspective, instead of the thing looking to buy should last approx 3 years I have the outlook it should last 10-40 years. Sometime that means buying a more initially expensive thing but since it will last longer it will be cheaper overall over its lifetime and have better build quality. What is good in the long run is also good for the environment. When having a repairability mindset when buying things that also sometime mean buying simpler things, I buy headphones without built in electronics since the electronics inside will fast become obsolete more than speaker elements.

Less waste less pollution Less bought stuff less co2 emissions and global warming.

Would love to have more modular devices more repairable devices

Do not want a wall-e future but a green one. Thanks to the repair cafes good movement!

Re: Repair Café

#54

Post by QML »

justifier wrote: post #15

i've fantasised about something like this before my neighbors are consistently throwing away perfectly fine electronics where 90% of the problems are a blown electrolytic capacitor there is a place in our apartment complex where we place electronic rubbish and just two days ago i noticed a tablet with a destroyed screen i popped it open and everything inside looked pristine so i bought a new screen for some ~20$ and…

Is most of consumer hardware built on top of open source or on proprietary tools? I would love to see a movement where companies build products and then give away implementation details, but the cynic in me says repair costs is the analog of advertising revenue for these companies.

Re: Repair Café

#55

Post by user5994461 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #39
justifier wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

precedent is a court document you linked to an article pretrial the person in the article took food from a bin stead ewaste i tried to find a followup article or court decision but was unable i did find a similar article from iceland where people were charged under an 1824 vagrancy act which was ruled unworthy of prosecution(o) your linked case reads like a power tripping manager to me this practice was part of the s…

Pre-trial? It's from 1877 and listed in an industry reference on legal precedents. And that precedent still stands because, as the article says, they're still prosecuting people for it. > One precedent-setting example from 1877 was the case of a diseased buried pig. According to legal text Archbold's Pleading, Evidence, and Practice in Criminal Cases, even if someone discards something and does not intend to use it a…

That BBC article is rather poorly related to the topic. A precedent needs to be a court document.

The first case. The owner of a sick pig buried on his land, then another person dig it and sold the carcass, in the 19th century. It's hard to tell if he was prosecuted for digging the land, or selling a diseased carcass, or theft.

The tesco case is equally poor. It doesn't say what is the result of the trial. Most likely because there wasn't one or it didn't go the way the article wished.

Re: Repair Café

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Post by oarfish »

acd wrote: post #53

I am starting to shift my perspective when buying things. New perspective, instead of the thing looking to buy should last approx 3 years I have the outlook it should last 10-40 years. Sometime that means buying a more initially expensive thing but since it will last longer it will be cheaper overall over its lifetime and have better build quality. What is good in the long run is also good for the environment. When h…

How can headphones not have electronics inside them?

Re: Repair Café

#57

Post by Regardsyjc »

justifier wrote: post #48
baddash wrote: post #46

Does anyone have a good idea of the environmental effects of reducing waste that this would cause? Or maybe just more generally the environmental effects?

a film called manufactured landscapes(o) completely shook me when i saw it in theatres when it was first released the film addresses ewaste issues like the fact that a lot of electronics rely on toxic elements, but there is also the shear vastness of dumpsites there is shot of a dump of motor armatures which could be argued to be one of the least likely failure points in consumer goods that use motors like washing ma…

Thank you for recommending this documentary. It was horrifying because the photography looked like a breathtaking scifi dystopia but it was real life. The woman who makes 400 gadgets at a factory a day, the laborer who makes 20-30 yuan ($3-4) a day...

The only positive thing was seeing women welding and operating heavy machinery. I've only seen women like that in ads and posters so it was refreshing to see badass women.

If anyone wants to check it out this documentary is available to watch for free on Amazon Prime.

Re: Repair Café

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Post by walrus01 »

oarfish wrote: post #56
acd wrote: post #53

I am starting to shift my perspective when buying things. New perspective, instead of the thing looking to buy should last approx 3 years I have the outlook it should last 10-40 years. Sometime that means buying a more initially expensive thing but since it will last longer it will be cheaper overall over its lifetime and have better build quality. What is good in the long run is also good for the environment. When h…

How can headphones not have electronics inside them?

If you disassemble a basic set of wired headphones it is literally just a set of wires from the TRS or TRRS plug to a set of speakers.

Re: Repair Café

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Post by dbalatero »

QML wrote: post #54
justifier wrote: post #15

i've fantasised about something like this before my neighbors are consistently throwing away perfectly fine electronics where 90% of the problems are a blown electrolytic capacitor there is a place in our apartment complex where we place electronic rubbish and just two days ago i noticed a tablet with a destroyed screen i popped it open and everything inside looked pristine so i bought a new screen for some ~20$ and…

Is most of consumer hardware built on top of open source or on proprietary tools? I would love to see a movement where companies build products and then give away implementation details, but the cynic in me says repair costs is the analog of advertising revenue for these companies.

A lot of analog synths from the 70s and 80s have full service manuals with complete circuit schematics, so repair is actually very doable. People even clone old hardware from tracing these circuits and laying them out on new modern pcbs.

Re: Repair Café

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Post by fernly »

At the linked site, click "Find a repair cafe" for a map of the many local ones. In particular for the SF Bay Area note Palo Alto and Mountain View ones. The Palo Alto cafe[1] is particularly active with quarterly events that are very well attended, processing over 100 repairs each time. The video on that page gives a good feel for a typical event. I've been a volunteer "fixer" there a couple of times and it's great fun if you have some basic repair skills.

[1] http://www.repaircafe-paloalto.org/

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