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It’s the convenience factor. That’s it. Once plant-based options are more convenient than meat, game over. Most people lack the discipline to sustain a vegan lifestyle, even in 2018.
Where do the Christians stand on this issue? If there's one single group that has the power to calibrate people's moral compass on this issue, is would be clergymen. As another person said, people just don't care. People are on the whole an exploitative and unsympathetic species. They'll continue eating factory farmed meat and buying sweatshop clothing, much more than necessary. But in the US at least, where 77% of p…
(Incidentally, this is why Ethiopian food is so vegan-friendly!)
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Tbh you just sound like someone who knows what the right thing to do is but is too damn weak to do it for yourself. Your posts are screaming out "if it's the right thing, why won't someone make it easy for me to stop?" Sadly you are just like most people throughout human history. We're ashamed of some of the things people have done in the past, and in the future people will be ashamed of this.
Hah, hardly. I only care about my enjoyment when it comes to this. There is a difference between a person unable to control their desire to eat animals in the face of the suffering those animals undergo versus eating animals because they enjoy it and not giving a damn. Do you consider it wrong? Maybe. Do I? Not even slightly. I would sooner bludgeon and cut the animals myself than eat only vegetarian food. I'm not su…
Yes, using animals in this was in unethical and yes animals have emotions. But I love meat so much I just can't seem to care. I mean I feel evolution made us humans evolve into beings that _can_ take advantage of all the tools and so why shouldn't we. Yes, this means I am ignoring the fact that the animals are being tortured. Putting it that way sounds bad but too bad, we step on ants every day as well. It's just where nature has gotten us.
In fact, if you mention the greenhouse effect and all, I think we're destroying our own habitat. In a few hundred years, might make humans extinct. But that's about it. The "Planet" is not being destroyed. It's us who are in danger. We brought it on us, we'll have to face it.
That was my rant and trust me, if you meet me you won't think I have such harsh views. But I wonder if anyone else thinks the same way or would like to discuss this.
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Tbh you just sound like someone who knows what the right thing to do is but is too damn weak to do it for yourself. Your posts are screaming out "if it's the right thing, why won't someone make it easy for me to stop?" Sadly you are just like most people throughout human history. We're ashamed of some of the things people have done in the past, and in the future people will be ashamed of this.
Hah, hardly. I only care about my enjoyment when it comes to this. There is a difference between a person unable to control their desire to eat animals in the face of the suffering those animals undergo versus eating animals because they enjoy it and not giving a damn. Do you consider it wrong? Maybe. Do I? Not even slightly. I would sooner bludgeon and cut the animals myself than eat only vegetarian food. I'm not su…
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Hah, hardly. I only care about my enjoyment when it comes to this. There is a difference between a person unable to control their desire to eat animals in the face of the suffering those animals undergo versus eating animals because they enjoy it and not giving a damn. Do you consider it wrong? Maybe. Do I? Not even slightly. I would sooner bludgeon and cut the animals myself than eat only vegetarian food. I'm not su…
Whether you meant to or not, you basically trolled this thread. That's destructive. Please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
Ok, here's a view I genuinely have and want to discuss. But it's quite far from the general consensus and is a bit radical (hence using a throwaway account) - Yes, using animals in this was in unethical and yes animals have emotions. But I love meat so much I just can't seem to care. I mean I feel evolution made us humans evolve into beings that _can_ take advantage of all the tools and so why shouldn't we. Yes, this…
The same reason people choose not to eat meat is the same reason some people choose not to rob someone or to treat someone kindly, etc - they see it as a good thing and they do it. And if I am aware and can avoid stepping on ants I will do it.
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Because we have a biological need for meat. Meat tastes good because we need it to thrive (note, we can survive on a vegetarian diet but it is not optimal). >How can you be against cruelty to animals and still regularly consume meat? How can you be against slave labor of children and still regularly wear clothing made in sweatshops? It's easy, it's a cost-benefit trade-off. It is simply too expensive. People understa…
I appreciate your reply. If I can paraphrase your first point, people eat meat because they enjoy it, and that's that. I'm curious what your source is for saying a vegetarian diet isn't optimal. Most studies I've seen (including large and long studies) claim the opposite. Here's a list: [1] I agree it's like sweatshops. I didn't want to draw the comparison to slavery because I think the ethical question stands on its…
It's very sad that people are still selling these diets without disclosing the very important health risks they pose or the care that must be taken when on them.
[1]https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/7-nutrients-you-cant-ge...
It’s the convenience factor. That’s it. Once plant-based options are more convenient than meat, game over. Most people lack the discipline to sustain a vegan lifestyle, even in 2018.
Discipline? Muhaha, I just don't want to be a vegan. Really love to eat meat.
And yet, you "really love to eat meat." Either you're too lazy to give good plant-based meals a shot (and time for your taste buds/gut to change), or it's just a discipline issue to stay away because meat is so conveniently engrained in our culture