so so so heartwarming oh my god
A Love Story That Upended the Texas Prison System
11–20 of 39 posts
Re: A Love Story That Upended the Texas Prison System
#12Interesting how he still seems to enjoy a clean reputation on the Internet. His Wikipedia page is spotless and there seem to be plenty of places extolling him all over. I'm pretty surprised, given that he died in 1991 and I figure he'd be universally seen as a terrible person. But he's noted in several places as a master of PR, so perhaps that continued after his death, despite causing the death and enslavement of co…
Looking at the WP article history, the current mention of his fight with her is in there from the beginning. It's not that anyone has been adding or removing it, just no one cares enough to add more on it...
Of course the Supreme Court case is there, it would be very weird if it wasn't. But it's phrased in a very specific and neutral way, as if he was fighting an odd bit of tax legislation, when the reality was he used prisoners as literal cotton picking slaves, personally oversaw brutal violence, and deprived 16,000 prisoners of due process.
I mean, come on! He literally used violence to force prisoners to lie under oath to attack an attorney! He operated a system where prisoners were forced to mutilate themselves in order to survive.
From the article:
One former prisoner named Clyde Sewell told a graphic account of an incident in which three inmates, all supposedly shot by McAdams while they were trying to escape, were laid out as examples, alive but bleeding profusely, at the entrance to the dining hall. “We had to walk through the blood to get to the dining room,” Sewell testified.
Can you imagine a hell like this? Can you imagine someone who ruled over it for over a decade and knew about every little detail and was responsible for all this horrific carnage? It's absolutely insane. These things are crimes against humanity.
Being responsible for this shouldn't mean some mild mention of "Beto was the lead defendant in 405 U.S. 319 in which the court upheld a Free Exercise claim on the basis of the allegations..." in the last paragraph of an otherwise fairly uninteresting Wikipedia article. It should mean that the person is permanently condemned for the monster they were.
That's what I'm complaining about: that somehow, in today's society where people seem to think you can't escape the past, true monsters do escape with their reputation unscathed. And that unsettles me.
Re: A Love Story That Upended the Texas Prison System
#13as usual, texas monthly knocks it out of the park.
it's darkly ironic that beto's prediction of inmate-run prisons would come to pass, though for many reasons beyond just administration reform.
Re: A Love Story That Upended the Texas Prison System
#14so so so heartwarming oh my god
this story was a lot of things but that's not a term i would have chosen personally
Re: A Love Story That Upended the Texas Prison System
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looking at the WP article history, the current mention of his fight with her is in there from the beginning. It's not that anyone has been adding or removing it, just no one cares enough to add more on it...
Of course the Supreme Court case is there, it would be very weird if it wasn't. But it's phrased in a very specific and neutral way, as if he was fighting an odd bit of tax legislation, when the reality was he used prisoners as literal cotton picking slaves, personally oversaw brutal violence, and deprived 16,000 prisoners of due process. I mean, come on! He literally used violence to force prisoners to lie under oat…
>That's what I'm complaining about: that somehow, in today's society where people seem to think you can't escape the past, true monsters do escape with their reputation unscathed. And that unsettles me.
Most of the people writing about Beto are going to be learning about him from other people involved in the criminal justice field. They aren't going to value the word of a defense attorney and some convicts.
They also likely don't see many problems in his acts, it's not like the TDCJ or the US has ever really given a shit about prisoners rights.
Re: A Love Story That Upended the Texas Prison System
#16Excellent article. I have to admit not caring much about the love story angle, but the legal struggle and general perseverance of the people involved was quite interesting.
Re: A Love Story That Upended the Texas Prison System
#17as usual, texas monthly knocks it out of the park. it's darkly ironic that beto's prediction of inmate-run prisons would come to pass, though for many reasons beyond just administration reform.
Can you elaborate?
Re: A Love Story That Upended the Texas Prison System
#18Amazing. Has this been turned into a movie yet?
Re: A Love Story That Upended the Texas Prison System
#19The Wikipedia article for Beto mentions virtually nothing of any of this. What is going on?
Re: A Love Story That Upended the Texas Prison System
#20Interesting how he still seems to enjoy a clean reputation on the Internet. His Wikipedia page is spotless and there seem to be plenty of places extolling him all over. I'm pretty surprised, given that he died in 1991 and I figure he'd be universally seen as a terrible person. But he's noted in several places as a master of PR, so perhaps that continued after his death, despite causing the death and enslavement of co…
Happens all over Wikipedia, for example Aleister Crowley (same one the Ozzy Osbourne song "Mr Crowley" is based on) is described as an scholar and where "occultism" is hold in high regard never mentioning its fictional nature and never suggesting or implying its just another money-making scam scheme; heck the Wikipedia page for Crowley or for occultism dosn't mention the word "scam" even once despite being one of the…
Well, it's really not on. I've just added a comment on the talk page of the George Beto article, perhaps others should do the same?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:George_Beto#Scrubbed_arti...?