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Not exercising worse than smoking, diabetes and heart disease study finds

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Re: Not exercising worse than smoking, diabetes and heart disease study finds

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How do you propose that someone attain a high degree of fitness without regular exercise? Would it be insufficient for a study to tell people to drink more water even though we know it's not the action of drinking water that helps us, but the cellular interaction with it once it's inside us? And even though people could connect saline bags directly to their nervous system? So, I'm wondering what you're clarifying.

I think it's more that regular exercise isn't sufficient to actually have a high degree of fitness. If you exercise regularly but still over eat with a terrible diet then you're likely not going to actually get fit.

It’s true that the positive effects would be lessened, possibly. Anecdotally, however, I’ve seen several dozen professional athletes eat like trash while maintaining an elite level of fitness. Turns out the body is fairly good at efficient nutrient synthesis, having done it for millions of years in sub-optimal conditions.

Re: Not exercising worse than smoking, diabetes and heart disease study finds

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What bullshit. So sick of these worthless "studies" and the media that peddles them for money.

My grandparents didn't "exercise" a single day. They were the healthiest people I knew. They were just active. Walk a lot. That's it.

Was the study funded by gym equipment association of america?

Really? Worse than smoking, diabetes and heart disease? Why CNN isn't labeled as a source of disinformation is beyond me.

Anything with a ? or "study finds" by any "news" organization should be discarded.

Re: Not exercising worse than smoking, diabetes and heart disease study finds

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What bullshit. So sick of these worthless "studies" and the media that peddles them for money. My grandparents didn't "exercise" a single day. They were the healthiest people I knew. They were just active. Walk a lot. That's it. Was the study funded by gym equipment association of america? Really? Worse than smoking, diabetes and heart disease? Why CNN isn't labeled as a source of disinformation is beyond me. Anythin…

Walking a lot = exercise

Re: Not exercising worse than smoking, diabetes and heart disease study finds

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My work provides a gym, and I go there for at least an hour every weekday. I'd rather do poorly at work then skip exercising to be honest. I see some of the older employees coming in trying to reverse the effects of a sedentary lifestyle and I do not envy that position. It's crazy how people will deprioritze their health. It should always be a person's #1 priority to live as long as possible. Of course, diet is also…

>It should always be a person's #1 priority to live as long as possible.

I think your number one priority should be to avoid suffering.

Re: Not exercising worse than smoking, diabetes and heart disease study finds

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My work provides a gym, and I go there for at least an hour every weekday. I'd rather do poorly at work then skip exercising to be honest. I see some of the older employees coming in trying to reverse the effects of a sedentary lifestyle and I do not envy that position. It's crazy how people will deprioritze their health. It should always be a person's #1 priority to live as long as possible. Of course, diet is also…

> It's crazy how people will deprioritze their health.

> Also, if you're struggling with getting fit, GET A PERSONAL TRAINER AND NUTRITIONIST.

There are tonnes of people out there who are just scraping by, who have to work two exhausting jobs, who have to spend all of their free time looking after kids, etc., who can't afford the gym, let alone a personal trainer and nutritionist.

If you have the time and money to do those things, then they are very good ideas. But they are out of reach for an awful lot of people, so perhaps try not to view the people who don't do this stuff as people who are making insane choices.

Re: Not exercising worse than smoking, diabetes and heart disease study finds

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My work provides a gym, and I go there for at least an hour every weekday. I'd rather do poorly at work then skip exercising to be honest. I see some of the older employees coming in trying to reverse the effects of a sedentary lifestyle and I do not envy that position. It's crazy how people will deprioritze their health. It should always be a person's #1 priority to live as long as possible. Of course, diet is also…

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Re: Not exercising worse than smoking, diabetes and heart disease study finds

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There's a gentleman who spends an hour or so every night walking around the neighborhood. He's usually watching something on his phone as he walks, and he always smokes a cigar at some point. I've always wondered if he'd be better off not exercising and not smoking that cigar. I guess now I know.

They're not really comparable. What good is being fit when you die in your 50s from lung cancer?

Comparing them is what this article is about. By the measure of all-cause mortality, exercise is more important than not smoking, according to these researchers.

Re: Not exercising worse than smoking, diabetes and heart disease study finds

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post #15

My work provides a gym, and I go there for at least an hour every weekday. I'd rather do poorly at work then skip exercising to be honest. I see some of the older employees coming in trying to reverse the effects of a sedentary lifestyle and I do not envy that position. It's crazy how people will deprioritze their health. It should always be a person's #1 priority to live as long as possible. Of course, diet is also…

>It should always be a person's #1 priority to live as long as possible. I think your number one priority should be to avoid suffering.

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Re: Not exercising worse than smoking, diabetes and heart disease study finds

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My work provides a gym, and I go there for at least an hour every weekday. I'd rather do poorly at work then skip exercising to be honest. I see some of the older employees coming in trying to reverse the effects of a sedentary lifestyle and I do not envy that position. It's crazy how people will deprioritze their health. It should always be a person's #1 priority to live as long as possible. Of course, diet is also…

> It's crazy how people will deprioritze their health. > Also, if you're struggling with getting fit, GET A PERSONAL TRAINER AND NUTRITIONIST. There are tonnes of people out there who are just scraping by, who have to work two exhausting jobs, who have to spend all of their free time looking after kids, etc., who can't afford the gym, let alone a personal trainer and nutritionist. If you have the time and money to do…

You’re not wrong, but I know a lot of people who just don’t prioritize it in even though they could. Sure, people scraping by to make ends meet don’t have this luxury. But the people that go to happy hour all the time and then complain about not having time to excercise just don’t have their priorities correct in my opinion
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