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Re: Brave 0.55 released

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Post by Yoric »

user812 wrote: post #71
Yoric wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What would Google do if Mozilla blocks all ads browser wide by default? (Which they can't do adhoc because it is probably explitically forbidden in their contract with Google) Just a few things: 1. Mozilla did explore this a number of years ago, concluded that a. if you block all ads, you break the revenue of pretty much the entire web, so that's probably not something you want; b. if you block all ads, you break l…

Thanks for the explanation. I don't blame or rate Mozilla, I was just trying to explain why they are unable to move, due to their ties to Google. I don't think it's a good or bad thing, but it's the reality. Mozilla is probably trying it's best under this conditions. Besides that, solving technical problems is possible if there is the will to do it.

> Besides that, solving technical problems is possible if there is the will to do it.

Right now, the problem is that it breaks either the web or the browser.

The alternative currently being pursued by Mozilla (and the W3C) is WebPayments, which should pave the way for websites paid for by micropayments, rather than ads.

Re: Brave 0.55 released

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Post by hddherman »

iSnow wrote: post #55
hackathonguy wrote: post #7

Anyone using Brave? Would love to hear your impressions.

Here. I was a huge Firefox fan, but having 50+ tabs open made the browser unusable - even the latest versions. I then switched reluctantly to Chrome, but always hated the UI. Having downloaded Brave, it was love on first sight, looks good, works good, blocks ads. I very much miss all the Firefox extensions, I hope a lot will get ported eventually. Oh, and Mozilla? You need to reboot your company/non-profit. I don't k…

Maybe this will help you out: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/auto-tab-disc...

A must have extension if you tend to keep a lot of tabs open.

Re: Brave 0.55 released

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Post by nunobrito »

hackathonguy wrote: post #7

Anyone using Brave? Would love to hear your impressions.

Been using it for two months now.

Pros:

+ Useful info on how many ads are blocked

+ Tor is the really useful for private mode

+ Metrics on hours per websites is cool info too

Cons:

+ Importing bookmarks/passwords from FF didn't worked

+ Sometimes it blocks, only keys work, not the mouse scrolling

+ Pressing X on the last tab sometimes doesn't work

Re: Brave 0.55 released

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Post by HappySweeney »

enitihas wrote: post #31

I have been using brave on android and really enjoy the experience. It is very similar to chrome and thus gives most of the advantages of chrome (opening browser after a long time feels very snappy, swipe to switch tabs). It also has convenient options to block ads and js placed very prominently at the url bar. It also has features like HTTPS everywhere and fingerprinting protection(haven't tried this one yet). Firef…

What about power usage? One of the things that drove me from Chrome to Firefox on Android was the insane power draw from Chrome.

Re: Brave 0.55 released

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Post by LiterallyDoge »

onyva wrote: post #4

I love the irony in “You are not a product“ from a commercial product (open source, I know) designed to monetize surfing (aka pay-to-surf), as if this is what the internet is about. I think we should resist such an effort and stick with projects (not companies) that want to keep the internet as it was meant to be, ie Mozilla Firefox. No problem with monetization but I want a browser that puts me first, not a middlema…

It seems like giving you the ability to decide people to support when you want to (if you ever do) is fair game. I don't think I see any inconsistency here.

Re: Brave 0.55 released

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Post by LiterallyDoge »

user812 wrote: post #17
onyva wrote: post #4

I love the irony in “You are not a product“ from a commercial product (open source, I know) designed to monetize surfing (aka pay-to-surf), as if this is what the internet is about. I think we should resist such an effort and stick with projects (not companies) that want to keep the internet as it was meant to be, ie Mozilla Firefox. No problem with monetization but I want a browser that puts me first, not a middlema…

The fundamental question is who decides. Ideally the browser is the product, but not the user. For that, the browser needs to solve the question of the flow of money. Using Firefox makes you the product, because Mozilla monetizes you with selling you to Google. That is not a browser that "puts you first" or promotes the "open culture of the internet". Giving people the ability to chose whether they want to participat…

Firefox seems like they respect the user to me. Putting Google, the most popular search engine, as the clearly visible and easily changeable default makes the most sense, in my head.

Re: Brave 0.55 released

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Post by enitihas »

HappySweeney wrote: post #84
enitihas wrote: post #31

I have been using brave on android and really enjoy the experience. It is very similar to chrome and thus gives most of the advantages of chrome (opening browser after a long time feels very snappy, swipe to switch tabs). It also has convenient options to block ads and js placed very prominently at the url bar. It also has features like HTTPS everywhere and fingerprinting protection(haven't tried this one yet). Firef…

What about power usage? One of the things that drove me from Chrome to Firefox on Android was the insane power draw from Chrome.

Power consumed is high. Brave consistently shows up as the highest cpu using app. Is firefox better on battery? If so, I will give it another try, as that is a very worthwhile trade-off.

Re: Brave 0.55 released

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Post by user812 »

Yoric wrote: post #81
user812 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the explanation. I don't blame or rate Mozilla, I was just trying to explain why they are unable to move, due to their ties to Google. I don't think it's a good or bad thing, but it's the reality. Mozilla is probably trying it's best under this conditions. Besides that, solving technical problems is possible if there is the will to do it.

> Besides that, solving technical problems is possible if there is the will to do it. Right now, the problem is that it breaks either the web or the browser. The alternative currently being pursued by Mozilla (and the W3C) is WebPayments, which should pave the way for websites paid for by micropayments, rather than ads.

Until Mozilla is free from Google et al., all "problems" related to blocking ads are merely theoretical.
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