Japan's Hometown Tax

Post by dublidu » Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 2:41 AM UTC

megaman2 wrote: post #57

resoluteteeth wrote: post #10

Couching this in terms of Japanese culture is unhelpful in my opinion. The return gifts probably wouldn't exist in the first place elsewhere, but allowing them is simply a blatant loophole that various local governments have cynically abused to increase their revenue and this is something that would happen in any country. The biggest problem is that some local governments are apparently giving return gifts that have…

> but there's absolutely zero reason to allow the return gifts in the first place There are reasons, but just ones that you don't agree with or haven't thought of. You need to understand that reciprocation is in the culture, and people are not purely rational economic actors. It's entirely possible some towns would outright refuse 'assistance' without being able to reciprocate somehow.

Post by mikeash » Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 2:50 AM UTC

odonnellryan wrote: post #209

mikeash wrote: post #203

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Because human rights are important and oppression is bad. States aren’t monolithic entities. This isn’t a case where people suffer the consequences of their own choices. It’s a case where some people suffer the consequences of other people’s choices. You’re proposing to allow millions to suffer indefinitely, hoping that those who rule them will eventually change their mind. This is been tried already, and it didn’t w…

I mean, newsflash that we're still stomping on rights in a lot of places in the US. There's a huge culture problem in the US.

Post by jlawson » Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 3:08 AM UTC

gknoy wrote: post #194

simias wrote: post #28

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"Bribe" is way too loaded, you could also call it social justice and redistribution, a way to give poorer areas better chances to improve their life. Saying that redistribution is bribery is about the same level of discourse as saying that taxes are theft and prison kidnapping.

> Saying that redistribution is bribery is about the same level of discourse as saying that taxes are theft and prison kidnapping I have friends who say literally that (taxes are theft). How does one argue against that? I have a hard time finding a way that it's technically wrong. I mean, taxation is literally the state taking your money (whether you want it or not, voted against it or not, etc). I can't help but fee…

Post by Pxtl » Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 3:37 AM UTC

techman9 wrote: post #216

Pxtl wrote: post #185

Anybody else figure out the endgame when they saw the beginning? "Oh crap, the hometowns just kick back a percentage to the taxpayer and suddenly Tokyo is bankrupt - as the hometowns outbid each other in a race to the bottom, eventually they lose too and it ends just being an expensive and complicated tax cut". Reality turned out even worse, with brokers skimming off a percentage. I suppose it's fair. In Japan, regis…

Can you explain a bit more more about why you believe Delaware is the proffered place to register a corporation?

Post by tlear » Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 3:42 AM UTC

brianpgordon wrote: post #212

tlear wrote: post #207

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I use the system and while yes you can do what you describe it is usually not really worth it. There is a limit on it that is not that high and it is more fun to just grab different fun things. I ended up using it for lots of high grade meat, sake

1.5% of your gross salary isn't worth it?