Apple has a nefarious history in regards to these types of issues.
Apple CEO Tim Cook Calling for Bloomberg to Retract Its Chinese Spy Chip Story
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Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Calling for Bloomberg to Retract Its Chinese Spy Chip Story
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You can be compelled to act exactly as you would as if the NSL had not been issued, and indeed they seem to contain language to that effect. A reasonable response would be to adopt a policy of "no comment" and most do, but if you have previously responded to questions about NSLs in the negative, you would then be required to continue doing the same. Q: Have you received an NSL? A: No. Q: Now have you received an NSL?…
How exactly do canaries work, then? Isn't the point there that you have a canary that you remove later?
Canaries don’t work. National secrecy laws treat a canary exactly as outright violating the gag order.
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> Bloomberg reporters have misreported on NSA exploiting Heartbleed Bad source given. The WP relies on NSA officials denying they used heartbleed. You believe that?
Half the people's reactions here rely on them believing the US Security Apparatus and large corporations are... honest. God, people.
Isn't Bloomberg a large corporation itself?
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> If there is something like a NSL involved, Apple's legal team would have already reviewed it. Apple's official statement clearly said, they're not under any form of NSL or gag order. The prevailing logic seems to be that US courts still believe the government can't force you to say something against your will, only prevent you from saying something.
And how would the CEO know what sort of NSL some datacenter employees are under?
That's not how it works. The company at large works with the government to figure out and certify who can receive NSL/FISA, and those folks have an internal process to make sure they're compliant with the law as they execute it.
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Are you asking Apple, or Bloomberg?
I meant Apple, but the broader implication is that we can't trust either party with the information we have now.
I mean Apple's account seems a lot more believable to me. I know we all want Jason Bourne to be real, but he isn't.
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LOL. Bloomberg is not going to "close shop in shame" over this. I seriously have no idea what set of assumptions you must be using to think that this is even in the realm of possibility. It's like saying "worst case, an asteroid hits us in 20 minutes."
Agreed that they won’t close shop over this, although it could be similar to how Dan Rather stepped down from CBS over the document controversy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy
A multi billion dollar business closing down and a longtime employee losing his “head” for the company are two very different things.
Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Calling for Bloomberg to Retract Its Chinese Spy Chip Story
#267Is it precedented for a news organization to double down like this in the case where a reporter just makes stuff up Stephen Glass style? Because barring a Stephen Glass scenario, what's fascinating here is that no matter which side is right, this is evidence of some sort of mysterious power play. Either Apple was hacked, they know, and are denying, which is evidence of them being under the thumb of U.S. national secu…
The Clinton administration and CIA tried to deny the China-Boeing technology transfer incident. But others in the CIA were concerned, raised the issue and were later proven right. I asked people in the CIA about the Bloomberg story and their response seemed to indicate that the story is real. There’s immense pressure to deny this story for several reasons.
Man, I asked people in the CIA and they said it was false! I also talked to my people at the NSA and they said they've never heard of you.
Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Calling for Bloomberg to Retract Its Chinese Spy Chip Story
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Half the people's reactions here rely on them believing the US Security Apparatus and large corporations are... honest. God, people.
Isn't Bloomberg a large corporation itself?
I give their journalism arm a bit more credence than Apple's PR arm, let's put it that way.
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OTOH, Joe Fitzpatrick, one of the few named sources, is very very doubtful of the veracity of the story. Blog interview with Joe Fitzpatrick: https://risky.biz/RB517_feature/ https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/10/08/security-research...
that's a credible perspective but let's not be vague: fitzpatrick wasn't a primary source, he is an expert on hardware implants who was consulted by the reporter prior to the original publication.
Fitzpatrick wasn't a primary source, but somehow his theories on how an implant could theoretically be implemented appeared in the Bloomberg story, as details of how it was actually implemented. This seems really fishy.
Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Calling for Bloomberg to Retract Its Chinese Spy Chip Story
#270If it turns out to be false, should the SEC look into it?
No, I think we should create a new Ministry, let's call it the Ministry of Truth, and they are responsible for dealing with these Fake News™ stories before they are published. No more anonymous sources!