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Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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All of these features are on my mid-2014 model. Due to the design of the case, the bottom has bowed out from temperature changes, but the battery is fine. Shame what they did to the new ones. I ended up getting a Razer Blade 13” to use at home, which seems tantalizing close to what new MacBook Pros should be.

Whoa--if'n you're getting bowing, you're likely looking at an expanding battery, which is bad news. Get that to Apple repair ASAP!

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Good luck getting those in the next MBP. Once a company exceeds a certain size, the normal rules of designing a product for the users stop applying. Mag safe, headphone jack, multiple USB ports, escape key - why were they removed? Who made these decisions? I might add a lack of dedicated PgUp/PgDn/Home/End keys on larger laptops. There's plenty of space, but no, we are going to use the same keyboard for all of them (…

Headphone jack's still there on the MBPs, unchanged.

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you reinstall OS or make non-iCloud backup without computer?

Is reinstalling the OS on an iPhone really a thing? I can't imagine that any significant number of people do that. Non-iCloud backups are probably more common but still extremely rare, as are any backup solutions that require more than a few minutes to set up and permanently automate.

I’m reinstalling OS every time instead of updating. I don’t trust automatic updating and I like the feel of new device.

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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The elimination of MagSafe is nearly too painful to talk about. It was magical. Now it’s dead. Here’s how it worked: The power cable was magnetic. Instead of sticking into the laptop, it connected to the side of it. If someone tripped over the cable, the cable would harmlessly disconnect from the laptop. That feature was really removed? I've accidentally yanked the power cord multiple times on my laptop. MagSafe save…

Good riddance! In my experience MagSafe 2 ruined the MagSafe connector design. It’s nearly impossible to use MagSafe 2 in anything but a stable flat position. Forget using it while laying down. Also, I work in a metal fabrication workshop, which means the brass contacts and their housing on the laptop side of the MagSafe 2 connector on my MacBook Pro are now blanketed and burned from poor contact due to metal dust in…

That should say * blackened and burned*. Touchscreen keyboards + autocorrect + not proof reading = bane.

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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> When Apple first launched MagSafe, the company loudly proclaimed they did so because customers kept breaking the connectors that plugged into the laptop. You know, like what’s in the current MacBook. I have a new MBP and I don't miss the MagSafe, to be honest. Mostly because I have the USB-C power cable connect through a USB-C hub -- what I lose in the usability of MagSafe, is mostly made up in flexibility. And wit…

There are USB-C magnetic adapters available.

eg. https://www.amazon.com/usb-c-magnetic-adapter/s?page=1&rh=i%...

That'll be the way I'm going moving forward.

See my other comment about my dislike of MagSafe, especially MageSafe 2 here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18258495

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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post #71
post #60

All of these features are on my mid-2014 model. Due to the design of the case, the bottom has bowed out from temperature changes, but the battery is fine. Shame what they did to the new ones. I ended up getting a Razer Blade 13” to use at home, which seems tantalizing close to what new MacBook Pros should be.

Whoa--if'n you're getting bowing, you're likely looking at an expanding battery, which is bad news. Get that to Apple repair ASAP!

I opened it with a special screwdriver and it’s fine and flat.

There’s no where for the metal to go when it expands and contracts during temp changes, so it bowed out, in its little creviced area it fits in. Nobody told Apple to surround metal with metal or how apparently.

It gets down to freezing sometimes, always shut off and I warm it up to room temp before turning it on, 8 or so hours.

How does your MacBook Pro work after being repeatedly frozen? Or sitting in a hot car? If you don’t do this, you wouldn’t know.

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Good luck getting those in the next MBP. Once a company exceeds a certain size, the normal rules of designing a product for the users stop applying. Mag safe, headphone jack, multiple USB ports, escape key - why were they removed? Who made these decisions? I might add a lack of dedicated PgUp/PgDn/Home/End keys on larger laptops. There's plenty of space, but no, we are going to use the same keyboard for all of them (…

I might add a lack of dedicated PgUp/PgDn/Home/End keys on larger laptops. There's plenty of space, but no, we are going to use the same keyboard for all of them (makes sense from a supply perspective!) Mildly unrelated, but many split-keyboard designs put an arc of thumb-keys like this http://xahlee.info/kbd/i04750/keyboardio_m1_rgb_44488.jpg There's plenty of opportunity for normal rectangle keyboards to put 2+ new…

By the way, on Apple keyboards you can get six extra keys by holding down the “fn” key:

fn + delete = forward delete

fn + return = enter

fn + up/down arrow = page up/down

fn + left/right arrow = home/end

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Good luck getting those in the next MBP. Once a company exceeds a certain size, the normal rules of designing a product for the users stop applying. Mag safe, headphone jack, multiple USB ports, escape key - why were they removed? Who made these decisions? I might add a lack of dedicated PgUp/PgDn/Home/End keys on larger laptops. There's plenty of space, but no, we are going to use the same keyboard for all of them (…

> I might add a lack of dedicated PgUp/PgDn/Home/End keys on larger laptops.

Yes, and then you can put full-sized arrow keys below them in the inverted-T!

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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> When Apple first launched MagSafe, the company loudly proclaimed they did so because customers kept breaking the connectors that plugged into the laptop. You know, like what’s in the current MacBook. I have a new MBP and I don't miss the MagSafe, to be honest. Mostly because I have the USB-C power cable connect through a USB-C hub -- what I lose in the usability of MagSafe, is mostly made up in flexibility. And wit…

Let's see how the USB-C female connector fares after the same amount of use. Something tells me it'll be busted long before the cable part wears out. All Apple cables seem to have a weakness where the cable joins to the connector. A short PVC tube is no match for a gradually tapered part found on some Ethernet cables. And the fact that the user usually just yanks the cable instead of pulling on a tiny connector part.…

USB-C has been designed so that the male part is less resistant than the female part. This way, the connector on the device will see less stress and should last longer.

Obviously they won't be last indefinitely, especially for a connector used as much as a power input. And I have no idea if all the connectors follow properly the standard regarding materials.

But given the built quality of Apple cables, I doubt we will see the device connector wear before the cable is ripped apart by natural degradation, after 1 or 2 years.

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