A Love Story That Upended the Texas Prison System
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A Love Story That Upended the Texas Prison System
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#2I've read the whole article. It was like good written dystopian novel but non-fiction which I can't believe.
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#3What a fantastic and riveting read. Of course, as with real life, the ending was upsetting (heroin really does kill and to this day, dealing with addiction to heroin is something we as a society still haven't figured out). I think one thing this highlights is something I've learned from reading and talking to activists who work with prisons. There really is a "different world" in prisons. Even with all the motion we've made since the 60s and 70s, prison remains a strange institution that has some moral abstract basis and purpose for existing in society for the rehabilitation and punishment of those who commit crime, but generates its own logic, and its own hierarchy, and perpetuates itself. Just like in Beto and McAdam's day, today prisons try to help fund themselves using prison labor, which has come up here before. United States prisons and the justice system as a whole still needs dire reform.
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#4Interesting how he still seems to enjoy a clean reputation on the Internet. His Wikipedia page is spotless and there seem to be plenty of places extolling him all over.
I'm pretty surprised, given that he died in 1991 and I figure he'd be universally seen as a terrible person. But he's noted in several places as a master of PR, so perhaps that continued after his death, despite causing the death and enslavement of countless people and losing a Supreme Court case related to his literal enslavement of prisoners.
I wonder if he's got fans monitoring things for him after his death? Some form of post-mortem reputation service? In any case, I'm disgusted that someone who literally enslaved more than 16,000 people for over a decade seems to have gotten away with it scot-free. I figured that in the age of the Internet, someone with a horrific legacy like this would never get away with it, but indeed nearly everything about him I can find is positive, and he's even got prisons named after him operating today.
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#5This is a long read, but well worth it.
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#6Women love bad boys e.g. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179107/James-Holme...
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#7Interesting how he still seems to enjoy a clean reputation on the Internet. His Wikipedia page is spotless and there seem to be plenty of places extolling him all over. I'm pretty surprised, given that he died in 1991 and I figure he'd be universally seen as a terrible person. But he's noted in several places as a master of PR, so perhaps that continued after his death, despite causing the death and enslavement of co…
Looking at the WP article history, the current mention of his fight with her is in there from the beginning. It's not that anyone has been adding or removing it, just no one cares enough to add more on it...
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#8Women love bad boys e.g. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179107/James-Holme...
James Holmes should not be compared to Fred Cruz in this story. Even the crimes Cruz committed are nowhere near as grave as Holmes' and even so, the connection between the Frances Jalet and Fred Cruz has no comparison to the sort of murderer fascination you link to here.
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#9Interesting how he still seems to enjoy a clean reputation on the Internet. His Wikipedia page is spotless and there seem to be plenty of places extolling him all over. I'm pretty surprised, given that he died in 1991 and I figure he'd be universally seen as a terrible person. But he's noted in several places as a master of PR, so perhaps that continued after his death, despite causing the death and enslavement of co…
Happens all over Wikipedia, for example Aleister Crowley (same one the Ozzy Osbourne song "Mr Crowley" is based on) is described as an scholar and where "occultism" is hold in high regard never mentioning its fictional nature and never suggesting or implying its just another money-making scam scheme; heck the Wikipedia page for Crowley or for occultism dosn't mention the word "scam" even once despite being one of the most used by its critiques.
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#10Wow, what a story. This is quite amazing - I could not stop reading it.