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Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Post by jtbayly »

nsxwolf wrote: post #5
java-man wrote: post #2

Good luck getting those in the next MBP. Once a company exceeds a certain size, the normal rules of designing a product for the users stop applying. Mag safe, headphone jack, multiple USB ports, escape key - why were they removed? Who made these decisions? I might add a lack of dedicated PgUp/PgDn/Home/End keys on larger laptops. There's plenty of space, but no, we are going to use the same keyboard for all of them (…

We've still got the headphone jack.

That's the big "One more thing" they've got for us at the end of the month. "No more headphone jack!" (Crowd erupts in applause.)

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Post by apo »

The elimination of MagSafe is nearly too painful to talk about. It was magical. Now it’s dead.

Here’s how it worked: The power cable was magnetic. Instead of sticking into the laptop, it connected to the side of it. If someone tripped over the cable, the cable would harmlessly disconnect from the laptop.

That feature was really removed? I've accidentally yanked the power cord multiple times on my laptop. MagSafe saved the hardware from major damage.

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Post by jtbayly »

bunderbunder wrote: post #20
akerl_ wrote: post #9

I was originally on board for comments like "If a person buys a MacBook Pro and iPhone, that person cannot connect their iPhone to their new MacBook Pro without buying an adapter or cable." But I can't remember a time I've plugged my current iPhone into a computer, ever. I had the original iPhone, where I had to plug it in constantly to manage music, sync contacts, and update the OS, but it hasn't been like that in m…

I never plug it into my computer to sync, but I often plug it in to charge. Plugging it into the wall to charge would require carrying an adapter, which would be annoying.

This is it exactly. I still need to charge the thing, and I often have it sitting next to my computer. So I charge from the handy port I've got right there... with an adapter.

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Post by trey-jones »

I use a 2013 MBP and I agree with this article in that I don't really want to "upgrade" to a Macbook without most of those features. In fact, even the 2013 is missing some features compared to the 2011:

* The old style Magsafe, where the cord comes out the back instead of the side. I still feel that one was superior.

* Accessible RAM. I upgraded the RAM in my 2011 from 4GB to 16GB for a fraction of what the 16GB in my 2013 cost pre-installed and soldered to the motherboard.

I can live with these, though. I absolutely will not buy a computer that doesn't have a real escape button - I don't actually use any software on my mac that I couldn't use on Linux, other than Apple Developer software, and that is not my primary function, just something I do sometimes.

Other than that, I do agree that the tabs on the power supply are pretty sweet. I think I would be fine with USB-C power, but it would be kind of nice if they didn't do away with perfectly good QoL features just because.

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Post by gmemstr »

vbezhenar wrote: post #25
akerl_ wrote: post #9

I was originally on board for comments like "If a person buys a MacBook Pro and iPhone, that person cannot connect their iPhone to their new MacBook Pro without buying an adapter or cable." But I can't remember a time I've plugged my current iPhone into a computer, ever. I had the original iPhone, where I had to plug it in constantly to manage music, sync contacts, and update the OS, but it hasn't been like that in m…

How do you reinstall OS or make non-iCloud backup without computer?

For the first part, probably just take it to the Apple store or just "factory reset" it. I don't think the average apple user cares enough to completely reinstall iOS themselves. Same goes for non-iCloud backups - the average person probably doesn't care enough to do backups normally, much less plug it into their computer manually. I'm not saying you're wrong, but rather taking your complaint with a grain of salt. It's sad but the average apple user (from my experience) doesn't care.

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Post by jtbayly »

dpkrjb wrote: post #24
hprotagonist wrote: post #13

I still have a 2010 MBP. Maxed out the ram, dropped in a standard 2.5" SSD, and it's doing fine.

You need to worry about the battery degrading at this point and what the costs to repair it would look like

Batteries for this model are quite easy to replace, and pretty cheap.

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Post by wtallis »

dpkrjb wrote: post #24
hprotagonist wrote: post #13

I still have a 2010 MBP. Maxed out the ram, dropped in a standard 2.5" SSD, and it's doing fine.

You need to worry about the battery degrading at this point and what the costs to repair it would look like

MBPs from that vintage didn't have the battery glued in. Anyone with fine motor skills can easily do the repair themselves for $90 in parts and tools.

Re: Basic features that will hopefully return to the MacBook Pro

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Post by jtbayly »

apo wrote: post #32

The elimination of MagSafe is nearly too painful to talk about. It was magical. Now it’s dead. Here’s how it worked: The power cable was magnetic. Instead of sticking into the laptop, it connected to the side of it. If someone tripped over the cable, the cable would harmlessly disconnect from the laptop. That feature was really removed? I've accidentally yanked the power cord multiple times on my laptop. MagSafe save…

Yes. The magsafe adapter is gone. You now have receive power via USB C.
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