i'd rather these big companies like apple faceboook google, to own up to their security breaches and waste less time on bloomberg crap
In this case, there is no evidence saying Apple has anything to fix.
Apple CEO Tim Cook Calling for Bloomberg to Retract Its Chinese Spy Chip Story
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#12With all the strong denials so far, my guess is that heads are going to roll at Bloomberg and that there may be retractions. Worst case, Bloomberg gets caught as publishing fake news endangering entire countries and companies, and closes shop in shame. There’s too much at stake for Bloomberg here.
Hopefully someone at the top at Bloomberg is taking this seriously and looking at some quick and decisive actions. These back and forth exchanges don’t seem to be working well in Bloomberg’s favor as far as perceptions are concerned. Bloomberg might also find itself an outcast in the tech circles.
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#13Something I posted elsewhere -
I highly doubt Bloomberg would run this story without a lot of faith in this. Michael Bloomberg has strongly hinted at plans to run for president on a democratic ticket and it's in his interest to undermine trumps anti-china agenda and something you can expect his eponymous news org to help him with.
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#14Interesting tidbit from the linked twitter post:
"Something is wrong. Blanket denials from companies, NCSC and DHS are v. unusual. The only precedent for this is a 2014 Bloomberg article, by the same author, which claimed NSA exploited Heartbleed, and was vigorously knocked down with zero follow up by Bloomberg or correction."
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#15Has anyone written a blog about the game theory of this whole ordeal? Feels a bit like the snowdrift game.
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#16“Seventeen individual sources, including government officials and insiders at the companies, confirmed the manipulation of hardware and other elements of the attacks. We also published three companies’ full statements, as well as a statement from China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs. We stand by our story and are confident in our reporting and sources.”
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#17With all the strong denials so far, my guess is that heads are going to roll at Bloomberg and that there may be retractions. Worst case, Bloomberg gets caught as publishing fake news endangering entire countries and companies, and closes shop in shame. There’s too much at stake for Bloomberg here. Hopefully someone at the top at Bloomberg is taking this seriously and looking at some quick and decisive actions. These…
If this were proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, China would be shown to be guilty of a massive act of corporate espionage.
Surely geopolitical pressure combined with the commercial pressure for that not to happen is enough for Bloomberg to retract its story regardless of truth?
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#18It’s fascinating to see this story unfold. On one end you have Bloomberg doubling down on their claims, and here you have Apple making a move that shows their confidence in their claims. For a while I was buying the subpoena theory, but this action clearly doesn’t fall under that, and they would be setting themselves up for serious liability / damage claims if it were true. Either there is some gross miscommunication…
Given the hack involves hardware I'm quite inclined to believe Apple and all the strong denials.
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#19It’s fascinating to see this story unfold. On one end you have Bloomberg doubling down on their claims, and here you have Apple making a move that shows their confidence in their claims. For a while I was buying the subpoena theory, but this action clearly doesn’t fall under that, and they would be setting themselves up for serious liability / damage claims if it were true. Either there is some gross miscommunication…
>Tim Cook is not properly informed - which is very unlikely at this point
Humor me, why is this unlikely? Why is it not possible that (whatever three letter agency) grabbed a few engineers, told them to do X without talking to anyone else, at the risk of them and their families getting disappeared to a black site?
Besides, in security controlled jobs it's perfectly normal to not be allowed to disclose what you're working on even to your direct superior. This idea that Tim Cook / Apple PR must know everything that's going on at Apple is kinda ridiculous.
Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Calling for Bloomberg to Retract Its Chinese Spy Chip Story
#20With all the strong denials so far, my guess is that heads are going to roll at Bloomberg and that there may be retractions. Worst case, Bloomberg gets caught as publishing fake news endangering entire countries and companies, and closes shop in shame. There’s too much at stake for Bloomberg here. Hopefully someone at the top at Bloomberg is taking this seriously and looking at some quick and decisive actions. These…
Isn’t the editor of Bloomberg the guy that used to be editor at The Economist for about 10 years, that is until 2-3 years ago? I don’t think he would have let something like this get published if he had had just the slightest doubt about the veracity of it all. And yes, I do trust the morals of an editor that I respect and have respected for more than 10 years more than an amoral corporation like Apple which is by law forced to first care about shareholder value, truth and morals be damned.