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Why Apple Eventually Lost Me and I’m Switching Back to Windows

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Re: Why Apple Eventually Lost Me and I’m Switching Back to Windows

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I've done it since this summer, going from a 2012 rMBP to a near-maxed out Thinkpad 480s (1 TB SSD, 24GB RAM for USD 2300? hell yeah..). Let me tell you though that as a mac user going to windows 10 you give up much more than a bit of polish - it's really cutting into your productivity. Just one tiny (but anger inducing) example: You can have either Windows Defender or a hangup-free Windows Explorer, but not both (an…

strange. I think something else is causing your issues. I am running Win 10 with Defender for years without trouble. UI input lags are also very strange and not a Windows phenomena.

Re: Why Apple Eventually Lost Me and I’m Switching Back to Windows

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I've been on a linux desktop for several years now. I use a VM for any windows dev I have to do. I should have made the switch sooner. Consider that instead of windows.

I'm using Linux on desktop for more then 10 years now. I guess the main reason is that after a few years you just can't leave it - due to the IKEA effect ;) (same with using Emacs) And even if the desktop situation gets worse (so you have to fix something) you just bond more: Catch-22...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IKEA_effect

Re: Why Apple Eventually Lost Me and I’m Switching Back to Windows

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For me it's been the opposite, actually. I use Mac, Windows 10 and Ubuntu for different use cases, and I keep finding Mac more appealing. I have to work around Ubuntu to make some stuff work sometimes. I really like Windows 10, but I have issues occasionally as well. With OS X, most of the stuff I try to do just work.

A few years back, I'd prefer to buy my own hardware, build my own PC and run Windows to save some cash and have a powerful PC. I would need to work a bit to make it work, sure, but I'd save some money. Now, I'd rather get an Mac, which is more expensive, but for which I have to worry about much fewer hardware and software issues.

I wonder if getting one of those Microsoft Surface Laptops would give me a similar experience with Windows 10, though.

Re: Why Apple Eventually Lost Me and I’m Switching Back to Windows

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post #22

I've done it since this summer, going from a 2012 rMBP to a near-maxed out Thinkpad 480s (1 TB SSD, 24GB RAM for USD 2300? hell yeah..). Let me tell you though that as a mac user going to windows 10 you give up much more than a bit of polish - it's really cutting into your productivity. Just one tiny (but anger inducing) example: You can have either Windows Defender or a hangup-free Windows Explorer, but not both (an…

strange. I think something else is causing your issues. I am running Win 10 with Defender for years without trouble. UI input lags are also very strange and not a Windows phenomena.

Judging by a previous discussion [1] I don't think I'm alone with these issues. It doesn't happen every time but it happens regularly and for almost random durations. Plus Windows in general just isn't that responsive, just take the start menu as an example and compare with almost any UI interaction on macOS.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18191622

Re: Why Apple Eventually Lost Me and I’m Switching Back to Windows

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I use MacOS and Windows at home. I want to switch to Windows exclusively just so I can have more control over the hardware but using my windows machine for the occasional gaming gives me enough reasons not to want to switch completely. No standout problems, it's death by a thousand cuts.

The incompatibility between the Windows and *nix filesystems is doing that to me. Running Vagrant or Docker based development on Windows turns quickly to nightmare, not because the tools are bad, but because mapping your dev directory to the vm side is non-trivial.

I've tried the linux subsystem, but the result was also disappointing. The one way I could see it working would be if I switched back from VS Code to vim, and use that inside the linux subsystem. Which means that a Microsoft product is keeping me on the Mac right now.

Re: Why Apple Eventually Lost Me and I’m Switching Back to Windows

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Just another run off the mill "I'm not getting another mac" complaint article. 1) Introduce myself by explaining how emotionally attached I was to the first Macs I bought 2) Complain about price 3) Complain about price some more 4) Did I mention price? 5) Windows has caught up to MacOS (which assumes Mac was ever ahead of Windows to begin with) 6) I'm an "x", and I do "y". I can do "y" just as well on Windows 7) Sinc…

These type of posts are only about how _they_ feel using something and don't go into any useful level of detail on how they do things exactly. Just tell or show me how you do it, and I will decide if it's for me.

It reminds me of commercials that show two people having fun on a boat in the middle of the ocean. After 10 seconds it turns out it's about perfume. What? The marketing trope of "don't sell a product, sell a promise".. Please miss me with that.

Re: Why Apple Eventually Lost Me and I’m Switching Back to Windows

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As far as price, I was looking into getting a 5K iMac in a year specifically because of the price.

It doesn’t seem like anyone sells a 5K monitor anymore except for LG and those go for $1300.

$2300 for a decently equipped iMac 5K (16GB of RAM, 256GB SSD) is not bad.

Re: Why Apple Eventually Lost Me and I’m Switching Back to Windows

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post #6

Just another run off the mill "I'm not getting another mac" complaint article. 1) Introduce myself by explaining how emotionally attached I was to the first Macs I bought 2) Complain about price 3) Complain about price some more 4) Did I mention price? 5) Windows has caught up to MacOS (which assumes Mac was ever ahead of Windows to begin with) 6) I'm an "x", and I do "y". I can do "y" just as well on Windows 7) Sinc…

It would be nice if these articles were written after a long time OSX user had actually used Windows 10 for a month or two.

I'm a long time OS X user. Macbook Pro as my work laptop and Windows 10 at home as a gaming/browsing desktop. Had Windows 8/7/Vista/XP/2000 as my home desktops prior to that, I actually dig building them. I don't get the drama. Yes, for vast majority of the users Windows 10 is pretty fungible for OS X. What do the majority of people do? That's right, launch the browser, maybe open Outlook. Would I use one for work given a choice? Nah, cygwin just doesn't cut it for me as a substitute for having a real UNIX underneath, especially since 50% of my work day is in terminal. Could I pull it off if I was forced to? Probably. It'd take awhile to set up all my keyboard shortcuts a la Quicksilver, find a substitute for Spotlight, sort out all the editors and such, but it's doable. Nothing is so critical these days as to be a complete show stopper. Just pick what works for you and stop having buyers remorse.
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