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Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

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Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

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Amazon is in it for the money. Appearing to be socially just is part of the marketing plan. Corporations are as much the problem as governments. But of course most the people here work for corporations.

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Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what I'm saying is we should assume that whatever mass surveillance mechanisms the government is trying to buy, it will eventually buy and whatever legal safeguards there are to protect us will eventually fail. what I'm calling for is the individual to be "armed" with adversarial patches or whatever other tool it is that confounds facial recognition sytems. the only thing which is long term effective is a population…

All well and good until you get visited by men with guns for breaking the law.

Seemed to work out alright for Cliven Bundy.

Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

#53

>The letter also contained demands to kick Palantir, the software firm that powers much of ICE’s deportation and tracking program, off Amazon Web Services The number one thing that will make large companies reject cloud computing is any hint that why will be kicked off because their legal business goes against the mores of the US West coast tech workers. If Palantir gets kicked off, how long until these same workers…

I don't know why you got down voted here that is the hidden aim of some far left groups (an I mean this in the European terms)

You can see this in motions passed at the Uk's labour party conference and some trade unions on the surface its about green jobs "yay" but the real aim is to cut the nuke and defence industries

Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

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I doubt that any of the four sentences above are true in reality.

I disagree. When the government turns bad, it is potentially an extremely dangerous scenario which pales in comparison to a corporation being unethical. A corporation cannot bomb your house.

cough Pinkertons cough

Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

#55

Amazon is in it for the money. Appearing to be socially just is part of the marketing plan. Corporations are as much the problem as governments. But of course most the people here work for corporations.

HN is a forum for startup founders and entrepreneurs.

I thought it was for "hackers" not MBA's

Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what I'm saying is we should assume that whatever mass surveillance mechanisms the government is trying to buy, it will eventually buy and whatever legal safeguards there are to protect us will eventually fail. what I'm calling for is the individual to be "armed" with adversarial patches or whatever other tool it is that confounds facial recognition sytems. the only thing which is long term effective is a population…

All well and good until you get visited by men with guns for breaking the law.

Then you need media and potentially a sizable revolution on your side. Lawyers too.

Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

#58

Won't the tech be built regardless of Amazon? It is either SV companies help with it and reduce costs or else blood-suckers such as IBM will come in with their contracts and low tech but costly solutions..

probably, but the problem is that the people at amazon signed up to do X and now they are being asked to do Y. if they had joined a company specifically to do Y then it wouldn't be an issue

Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

#59

Amazon is in it for the money. Appearing to be socially just is part of the marketing plan. Corporations are as much the problem as governments. But of course most the people here work for corporations.

HN is a forum for startup founders and entrepreneurs.

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Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

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I applaud the authors of this letter. It's an open question whether an open, democratic society can exist in the world of computational media. If it can, we'll either need a well-educated citizenry or a benevolent oligarchy of people who are skilled, knowledgeable, and wise in the use of computers. We have done a lousy job of ethical political leadership so far, preoccupying ourselves with profitably dismantling what's left of the old paradigm. I would love to see more folks in tech running for office.
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