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Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

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Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

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Until you are a victim of a crime and facial recognition helps to find the perpetrator and you suddenly change your mind.

> The letter also contained demands to kick Palantir, the software firm that powers much of ICE’s deportation and tracking program, off Amazon Web Services

And... I can tell this post is going to be west-coast extreme liberal biased.

Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

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>The letter also contained demands to kick Palantir, the software firm that powers much of ICE’s deportation and tracking program, off Amazon Web Services

The number one thing that will make large companies reject cloud computing is any hint that why will be kicked off because their legal business goes against the mores of the US West coast tech workers. If Palantir gets kicked off, how long until these same workers call for banning Boeing. A lot of these large conglomerates have at least a division that is involved in the defense industry.

A final point. If you think that facial recognition is too dangerous to sell to police, why are you selling this dangerous technology to corporations where the potential for abuse is still there but with less oversight? Also, if. the police can’t buy this technology, they will buy the service from a middle man that buys it from Amazon.

Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

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Until you are a victim of a crime and facial recognition helps to find the perpetrator and you suddenly change your mind. > The letter also contained demands to kick Palantir, the software firm that powers much of ICE’s deportation and tracking program, off Amazon Web Services And... I can tell this post is going to be west-coast extreme liberal biased.

And if your daughter was murdered, you want them dead.

That is not how we made our legislation work.

Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

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>The letter also contained demands to kick Palantir, the software firm that powers much of ICE’s deportation and tracking program, off Amazon Web Services The number one thing that will make large companies reject cloud computing is any hint that why will be kicked off because their legal business goes against the mores of the US West coast tech workers. If Palantir gets kicked off, how long until these same workers…

Corporations are overseen by the government. The government is in the unique position of having the monopoly of force. If a company turns bad, the government protects us. If the government turns bad, things get very bad.

Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

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Until you are a victim of a crime and facial recognition helps to find the perpetrator and you suddenly change your mind. > The letter also contained demands to kick Palantir, the software firm that powers much of ICE’s deportation and tracking program, off Amazon Web Services And... I can tell this post is going to be west-coast extreme liberal biased.

And if your daughter was murdered, you want them dead. That is not how we made our legislation work.

Most people want justice, thus the police to find the murderer, arrest them, and bring them in front of a judge or jury for their due punishment.

Limiting the polices technology and resources is an argument that doesn't make sense to me. Especially coming from open source advocates. Smells of hypocrisy.

Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

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And if your daughter was murdered, you want them dead. That is not how we made our legislation work.

Most people want justice, thus the police to find the murderer, arrest them, and bring them in front of a judge or jury for their due punishment. Limiting the polices technology and resources is an argument that doesn't make sense to me. Especially coming from open source advocates. Smells of hypocrisy.

Yes, it kind of does. See, you want tech in place that can easily turn into mass-surveillance to catch a criminal you have been a victim of. And you want him punished. So, for both things are laws i. place, exactly to get these emotions out of the picture.

Re: Amazon Employee: We Shouldn’t Sell Facial Recognition Tech to Police

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constitutional rights (and a culture that enshrines them as sacred) is just one layer of protection for civil liberties. The other, Often overlooked layer is the fact that running a dystopian state is uneconomical. For better or worse this is the logic used by gun advocates, but it should also apply to other areas.

technology can make it feasible to scale repression like never before. facial recognition, big data, centralized Electronic banking are all enormously powerful tools in the wrong hands. the guns of the 21st century are those made by the subversive cypherpunk. cryptocurrency and encrypted chat come to mind. In China the number one tool to oppose state censorship is not protest, its a vpn.

at the end of the day if amazon doesn't do this someone else will. so long as the tech is possible the gov will get their hands on it, and so far as the tech errodes civil liberties it eventually will be used to do so.

Amazon can only hold back the tide for so long.

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