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Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 9:46 PM UTC

softawre wrote: post #246

mrguyorama wrote: post #198

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Pilots aren't in short supply. Pilots willing to accrue $40k in dept for the necessary education to then get paid $25k a year are very much in short supply. Many regional pilots are on food stamps. This is the reason I currently write software instead of flying commercial airplanes.

Shouldn't wages increase with demand? Why aren't they?

It's been years since I was a student pilot, but it doesn't look like things have changed much. Back then, there were many commercial pilots at the low end, making peanuts. Only at the middle & upper levels do you really start to make money

It's a similar situation to National Park Rangers: there are so many people willing to do the job that wages are very low.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 9:55 PM UTC

poulsbohemian wrote: post #310

coryfklein wrote: post #293

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> it is legal in the state of Washington, by the vote and actions of the people The people who live in Washington only decide a subset of the laws for the state. It is still illegal to possess or consume weed in Washington because WA is a part of the United States of America, where weed is illegal nationwide. The "United States of America" as a political body is defined by the borders of the United States of America…

You are missing the nuance of what I'm saying, but I don't have the energy to explain it right now. Are you the Cory Klein in Minnesota (with whom I went to college)?

That's not particularly nuanced: you can probably find may examples of actions that are legal on a state level, but illegal on a Federal level.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by coryfklein » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 10:01 PM UTC

antidesitter wrote: post #306

coryfklein wrote: post #296

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Border guards are duty-bound to turn away people that they suspect are likely to commit crime and, in the United States as a whole, weed possession/consumption is still considered a crime worthy of jail time. Although I think weed should be legal, in the mean time I am not interested in my taxes paying for the confinement or deportation of Canadians. Ergo, one can support weed legalization and also believe that weed…

> Although I think weed should be legal, in the mean time I am not interested in my taxes paying for the confinement or deportation of Canadians. Ergo, one can support weed legalization and also believe that weed consumption can be used from a practical perspective to deny entrance to foreigners. This makes no sense. How does having consumed weed in the past entail that one will consume weed in the United States ? Th…

I think driving on the left is a false analogy. We don't drive on the left because we enjoy it or because it makes us happy. However, if we have consumed weed in the recent past, that is a strong signal that we have a preference for weed and would pursue the experience again in the future.

If you and I had a betting market that allowed us to bet on an individual's likelihood of consuming weed while in the United States, knowledge of that person's past behavior in consuming weed would be a strong piece of evidence that you could use when making a bet.

Anybody consuming weed today is more likely to have consumed it in the last 30 days than somebody that is not consuming weed today.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by coryfklein » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 10:03 PM UTC

poulsbohemian wrote: post #310

coryfklein wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it is legal in the state of Washington, by the vote and actions of the people The people who live in Washington only decide a subset of the laws for the state. It is still illegal to possess or consume weed in Washington because WA is a part of the United States of America, where weed is illegal nationwide. The "United States of America" as a political body is defined by the borders of the United States of America…

You are missing the nuance of what I'm saying, but I don't have the energy to explain it right now. Are you the Cory Klein in Minnesota (with whom I went to college)?

> Are you the Cory Klein in Minnesota

Nope, although there are less than 50 Cory Kleins in the United States, so hooray for unlikely probabilities!

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 10:31 PM UTC

refurb wrote: post #134

qwerty456127 wrote: post #70

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> US border guards might deny you entry if you admit to previous cannabis use - for them "A confession is as good as a conviction" Why? Is it not just selling and possession but also the very act of smoking illegal in the USA? Are the USA citizens forced to follow the homeland laws wherever they travel even if the laws at where they are are different? It sounds like if they had to still drive the right sides of the r…

If you admit to smoking it, you must have been in possession of it.

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Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by qwerty456127 » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 10:37 PM UTC

coryfklein wrote: post #294

refurb wrote: post #134

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If you admit to smoking it, you must have been in possession of it.

Why the distinction? Both smoking and being in possession are illegal in the US anyway.

It can make logical sense to ban selling or producing but outlawing a person to consume whatever (except when driving, operating machinery or doing some other kind of job potentially dangerous to others) is plain absurd - every person's body belongs only to themselves and they drink/smoke/eat whatever they want.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by qwerty456127 » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 10:38 PM UTC

refurb wrote: post #134

qwerty456127 wrote: post #70

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> US border guards might deny you entry if you admit to previous cannabis use - for them "A confession is as good as a conviction" Why? Is it not just selling and possession but also the very act of smoking illegal in the USA? Are the USA citizens forced to follow the homeland laws wherever they travel even if the laws at where they are are different? It sounds like if they had to still drive the right sides of the r…

If you admit to smoking it, you must have been in possession of it.

I've once found some (something less than a gram), seriously. Nobody was around who it might belong to so I've just smoked it immediately. The law (well, a FAQ on the police website) says I should have taken it and given it up to the police but what if an officer would stop me for a check during my way and find it - wouldn't it be possession anyway? The purpose of possession is unverifiable and forbidding a person to consume any kind of substance is ridiculous.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by antidesitter » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 11:07 PM UTC

coryfklein wrote: post #313

antidesitter wrote: post #306

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> Although I think weed should be legal, in the mean time I am not interested in my taxes paying for the confinement or deportation of Canadians. Ergo, one can support weed legalization and also believe that weed consumption can be used from a practical perspective to deny entrance to foreigners. This makes no sense. How does having consumed weed in the past entail that one will consume weed in the United States ? Th…

I think driving on the left is a false analogy. We don't drive on the left because we enjoy it or because it makes us happy. However, if we have consumed weed in the recent past, that is a strong signal that we have a preference for weed and would pursue the experience again in the future. If you and I had a betting market that allowed us to bet on an individual's likelihood of consuming weed while in the United Stat…

So what probability do you assign to someone smoking weed illegally in the United States, given that they have smoked weed in a different country where it's legal?

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by romwell » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 11:09 PM UTC

benbristow wrote: post #308

Symbiote wrote: post #162

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> Being able to look foreign gatekeepers in the face and deny having ever used a product that's legal in your native country is now a necessary job requirement for some. This is not so different from being arrested for having drunk alcohol at the UAE border. (In this case, alcohol supplied by the Dubai airline.) https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/11/woman-arrest... https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/u…

From every headline there's a backstory. I've been to Dubai Airport and had a pint. No problem. There's bars all over the place. Even an official Heineken bar. Just don't act like an ass and you'll be fine.

>From every headline there's a backstory.

The backstory being "Don't be a woman in UAE"?

>I've been to Dubai Airport and had a pint. No problem.

O, selective enforcement, the glorious ideal all other countries' legal systems should aspire to!

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by romwell » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 11:13 PM UTC

dagw wrote: post #106

tokyodude wrote: post #98

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> On the bright side, we could finally get some quality data on the health impacts of pot Doesn't this already exist from other countries where it's been legal for decades?

Doesn't this already exist from other countries where it's been legal for decades? As far as I know Canada is only the second country in the world (after Uruguay) to actually fully legalize recreational cannabis.

FWIW, the population of California (where recreational cannabis has been legal since winter) is larger than the entire population of Canada.