Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know • Hacker News Board

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

#281

Post by biglenny » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 6:47 PM UTC

nrdgrl wrote: post #255

noarchy wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Canada is leading in personal freedoms and new markets with this move, ending cannabis prohibition that is long overdue and a step in ending the drug wars. To an extent, yes. With regard to those new markets, though, most provinces are taking the monopoly route. So while production will be in private hands, distribution and in some cases even retail will be done by provincial government monopolies. To illustrate how…

Also because every city gets to set their own consumption bylaws, many people who rent have nowhere to legally smoke it. eg: Calgary - public smoking is banned. You're allowed to smoke it in your own house. Except most rental companies have banned smoking on rental property (inside or outside). So the only way to smoke legally could get you evicted.

Good - the smell is nasty and a nuisance for both tenants and the general public.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

#282

Post by esond » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 6:49 PM UTC

moate wrote: post #237

rfrey wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've met a number of people (all American, so I infer it's due to some American news sources) that believe Canadians are arrested on a regular basis for flimsy and arbitrary claims of hate speech, and those arrests are political. The same people tend to believe we wait six months and probably die before getting cancer treatment because of our socialized medical system. So chalk it up to Canada being used in the parti…

You can chalk it up to Jordan Peterson and his fanboys insisting that white men are the most oppressed group in this upside down new world we live in. That segment really likes to paint Canada as the thought-police boogie man.

Jordan Peterson absolutely and completely does not "insist", insinuate, or suggest that "white men are the most oppressed group". I am a really big fan of Dr. Peterson's work and I have never heard him say or publish anything remotely resembling such a statement. In fact, he is completely opposed to identity politics on the whole.

Some misguided white men might think that they are "the most oppressed group", but they are just that: misguided.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

#283

Post by derefr » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 6:51 PM UTC

acct1771 wrote: post #250

beloch wrote: post #47

How Canada interfaces with the rest of the world promises to be a bit screwy. For just one example, consider airline staff. Some Canadian airlines have already banned employees from using pot. Obviously, the general public doesn't want to fly with pilots that are high in more than one way. These airlines also have to operate in countries, like the U.S., where their employees could be detained or expelled for even adm…

Ways it's bad: 1) Helps being okay with being bored 2) Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, and, by my estimation, varying levels thereof 3) Cancer, and lung/heart disease, if you're dumb enough to light it on fire =] 4) Adrenal fatigue Still an incredibly useful substance.

And none of those happen if you have a chemical imbalance resulting in low endocannabinoid levels, because THC/CBD would just bring those levels back up to a baseline reference value, rather than pushing them into excess.

(I.e., the same reason that people who have ADHD don't become manic when taking stimulant-class ADHD meds; while people who don't have ADHD, do.)

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

#284

Post by derefr » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 6:54 PM UTC

astrodust wrote: post #262

maxerickson wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many US states restore the vote. http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/felon-v...

"Many" but not nearly all. In Canada prisoners can and do vote.

I'm curious—would there be a way to comparatively analyze Canadian and American election results, to figure out whether prisoners' disenfranchisement has an impact on policy?

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

#285

Post by derefr » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 6:56 PM UTC

LeftTurnSignal wrote: post #87

apaprocki wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada will deny a US citizen entry if they’ve ever had a DUI in their life, even if it was 30 years ago. Many people find this out the hard way.

A friend had an expunged disorderly conduct when he was 13. We were in our 20s, and were detained by the Canadian border for about 9 hours. Then they escorted us back because of the disorderly. The second time I got detained was only for 5 hours though. The second time I went in mid to late 20s by myself. After searching my car for 3 hours, they didn't find anything and I was let go. I hate it.

I was detained for about an hour when entering at the Canadian border from the US. I'm a Canadian citizen, and was in the US for a conference for about a week. Canadian CBP is... something.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

#286

Post by mprev » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 7:03 PM UTC

mrguyorama wrote: post #198

todd3834 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m surprised to hear that pilots are in short supply. I started learning to fly as a hobby and I saw many videos about how hard it is to get a job at a commercial airline. I got the impression that there is more supply than there is demand.

Pilots aren't in short supply. Pilots willing to accrue $40k in dept for the necessary education to then get paid $25k a year are very much in short supply. Many regional pilots are on food stamps. This is the reason I currently write software instead of flying commercial airplanes.

The going rate for training to commercial level in the UK is £120k. I wonder what accounts for the difference. Pilot wages are higher than the $25k you mention. Are those regional airlines subsidising the training?

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

#287

Post by poulsbohemian » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 7:09 PM UTC

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #269

poulsbohemian wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just had a crazy thought - so it's legal in Canada, it's legal in Washington State, but it's illegal in the eyes of the border guard separating the two because he's a US federal employee. That's seriously fascinating.

Well, the thing is it's not really legal in WA, Federal law applies to WA. It's just not illegal at the state level any more.

Au contraire, that's my point - it is legal in the state of Washington, by the vote and actions of the people. Likewise, by the vote and actions of the people of British Columbia it is legal. But, to a political body 2000 miles away it is not. And, because they have a representative who stands in a little box separating those two groups who have voted and acted, it is somehow made illegal should he or she wish to harass someone crossing that invisible line. It's ripe for a Kafka novel really.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

#288

Post by Raphmedia » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 7:13 PM UTC

bregma wrote: post #183

Raphmedia wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is already how it works for alcohol and gambling. Makes sense that drugs would also be sold by the government.

Also, prostitution is legal in Canada. What's the next government monopoly, I wonder...?

You jest but chances are high that if brothels are ever legalized nationally, the government will control it.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

#289

Post by cmrdporcupine » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 7:17 PM UTC

doombolt wrote: post #176

bregma wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The legislation I linked to suspends all constitutionally-guaranteed rights "at" the border (ie within 100 miles of a border crossing, including any airports with international flights) if you are not an American citizen. The suspension of constitutional rights has been tried and upheld by a number of SCOTUS cases. There is no international body regulating any other kind of right, despite the well-meaning intention o…

If you are not an American citizen you are still a citizen of some other country, which has its own obligations before its citizens to uphold their human rights, even when they cross someone other's border. This may end up ugly for the USA if they try to abuse that decision. Not every country in this world is Mexico.

They abuse it routinely. Almost any Canadian who crosses regularly has seen it or experienced it. Especially since 9/11. It's just part of life being next to an aggressive large imperial power.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

#290

Post by cmrdporcupine » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 7:19 PM UTC

I don't trust Shopify (or any other merchant) to run the online Ontario Cannabis store in a way that won't ultimately lead to an American federal policing agency demanding records and the names of all customers ending up on some list that Homeland security can peruse during border crossings.

So I won't be partaking for that reason, among others.