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You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

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Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#83
post #17

No guilt. No tip. Never. If they want more than the listed price they should raise the listed price. Social customs/expectations/guilt/whatever be damned. I never tip. Never have, never will.

I can guarantee that you've never worked as a waiter/waitress. This is so fundamentally insulting that I can't believe anyone actually would hold this position. When you sit down at a restaurant you are paying the wait staff to serve you. If I ever saw you a second time, I would insist you pick up your own orders, drinks, and bus your own table you skinflint.

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#84
Back in college when I drove pizza delivery, I used to like being assigned to the upper class neighborhoods.. Nice and safe. That is until, in my experience, I saw how little they tipped, and how much they expected for it. Yet when I delivered in the neighborhoods full of gangs, working class folks, and migrant farmworkers, I'd receive generous tips for my delivery. It was quite striking. The poor know what a tip means to another poor person.

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#85
post #16

Haha. Glad to see this. I’m new to the US and thought the tip was expected...

The tip is expected only when you're at a real restaurant. No tip is required for fast food places. No tip is required up front before you're served. You should tip hair stylists and restaurant staff that brings you food or drink. I generally only tip 15 percent and I never tip at a buffet.

Why should you tip the hair stylists though. Isn't the service exactly what you pay for in the first place (same as taxi/uber)?

For food I can kind of understand of since they decouple serving and preparation + ingredients.

Note that I am not American and am new to tipping. Just curious

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is tipping at a sit down restaurant not a relic of slavery? The idea that restaurant personnel earn so little that they need to live on tips is barbarous.

Yet strangely, the loudest voices AGAINST doing away with tipping in favor of a wage are often wait staff themselves.

This seems like such a non-issue, I'm not sure why articles are written about tipping.

Wait staff love tips because it gets them paid significantly more than if they worked a retail job.

After visiting Europe, tips are necessary for good service. The rudeness and lack of service was culture shock.

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#87

If anyone here has been to Japan, tipping is handled much more elegantly and with a lot more business integrity. Instead of guilt-tripping customers into tipping, businesses in Japan up their prices if they need more money. I remember once when I was in Osaka I was at a really good sushi place that I had visited several times prior. There was no tip option on the receipt (didn't see it anywhere in Japan) and there wa…

No tipping policies in the US will never work as long as tips are untaxed. Otherwise, it is a lose-lose. Diners pay more than with tipping, servers' take-home pay is reduced. That is why most restaurants that have tried no-tipping have gone back to it.

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#88

If anyone here has been to Japan, tipping is handled much more elegantly and with a lot more business integrity. Instead of guilt-tripping customers into tipping, businesses in Japan up their prices if they need more money. I remember once when I was in Osaka I was at a really good sushi place that I had visited several times prior. There was no tip option on the receipt (didn't see it anywhere in Japan) and there wa…

Used to be like this too in much of Europe, but now they expect tips from you if they think you're American.

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#89
I tip not because of guilt, or because I feel like I need to pay for the service.

I tip because I frequent local restaurants, bars, coffee bars, etc - and the 20% is a little good will towards the establishment. How can I walk around complaining about Amazon and big corp dominance when I won't even cough up 20% for a small local place?

*note how I'm only mentioning local establishments. To hell with everyone else

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#90
post #23

Own your privilege and tip the goddamn 15-20%. If you can afford to spend $3 on a coffee, you can afford to spend $3.60 on a coffee. You almost certainly make a lot more than the guy or girl behind the counter. (I love the iPad payment thingy because I always feel guilty never having cash to put in a tip jar.)

At the places I go, sometimes your $2-$3 coffee purchase will show suggested tip amounts of $1, $2, $3 on the display. Generally I'll tip a buck when I get coffee from a fancy coffee shop. Despite that I don't think it's unreasonable for people to want the price listed at the counter to incorporate the full cost of goods and services.
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