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Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by amscanne »

JPKab wrote: post #228
clomond wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One major thing that comes to mind is that cannabis is still technically illegal in the Netherlands. Instead there is a distinction of "soft drugs" and "hard drugs" and authorities follow a policy of non-enforcement in many (but not all) cases. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_the_Netherlands... In Canada cannabis has become legal in a manner similar to alcohol, making the difference.

Interestingly to me, it seems that the broader international audience on HN has absolutely no idea that individual states in the USA have fully legalized and regulated cannabis. Colorado (where I live) has done so for 4 years, and California, Nevada, to name a few, have followed suit.

Just to be pedantic, Washington was the first state to legalize for recreational use (by 4 days), so Colorado was also following suit ;)

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Post by jerrysievert »

softawre wrote: post #244
JPKab wrote: post #228

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Interestingly to me, it seems that the broader international audience on HN has absolutely no idea that individual states in the USA have fully legalized and regulated cannabis. Colorado (where I live) has done so for 4 years, and California, Nevada, to name a few, have followed suit.

We know, it's just that it is still illegal at the federal level. It's similar to the non-prosecution agreement mentioned in the Netherlands above.

> It's similar to the non-prosecution agreement mentioned in the Netherlands above

not necessarily. in Oregon, it is tracked, taxed, and regulated. one can still grow their own and remove themselves from the tracking, but this is for personal consumption not for sale.

there is still enforcement, and cooperation with the federal levels, specifically to help curb the black market and the problems that arise due to the black market.

one example of a difference would be the airport - you can fly in Oregon with cannabis, as long as you are under the legal limit to carry and are flying within the state (not crossing any borders). if the TSA (federal employees) are concerned about how much you are carrying or that you are not old enough, they will detain you long enough for local authorities to check, then release you and whatever legal amount you have with you to fly (if you are over the limit, you are asked to dispose of it, much like having too much liquid in your carry-on).

this differs quite a bit to pre-legalization, where non-prosecution was more likely if you were white and in a larger city such as Portland.

the limits are for federal property, which falls under federal law, crossing borders, which again falls under federal law, and black market activities, which are illegal under state laws, and likely include crossing of borders or federal land (quite a lot of forests in the United States are federally owned).

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Post by Raphmedia »

protomok wrote: post #236
saiya-jin wrote: post #112

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It certainly isn't completely harmless, very few things are. Subjective perspective - smoking is really bad, can be dramatically improved with good vaping but its still harmful. One of the great side effects of legalization - health-conscious people have less damaging options for consumption. Eliminated by eating the material, but then effects are a bit different. There have been some rumors on lower sperm count/lowe…

I frequently hear teenagers and young adults say things like 'Cannabis is harmless', 'not as bad as alcohol', etc. The issue here is the initial research consistently shows us the opposite - frequent cannabis use appears to cause developmental delay and may cause _irreversible_ mental illness in adolescents that is in at least one case worse than alcohol. Let's take Schizophrenia as an example: Increased Risk of Schi…

This is why it is 18+ and 21+ to buy it legally. Children should not take any mind altering substances. Nobody is arguing that it is harmless for kids.

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Post by arountheworld »

706f6f70 wrote: post #55

The really interesting studies will be longitudinal IMO. It's almost certainly not going to be another tobacco, but it strikes me as impossible that smoking marijuana is harmless. Should also be interesting to see what marijuana culture develops when the entire country is allowed to consume it legally.

There is a decades-long study by Tashkin et al., not being able to find that smoking cannabis is significantly harmful. I am on my phone so don't have it at hand.

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Post by v_lisivka »

creep wrote: post #222
abledon wrote: post #163

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You could also say a similar situation could happen with alcohol. Note said , I think in the future , 59-70 years from now healthy people will refrain from alcohol, pot knowing they both have negative consequences to themselves and their offspring

I think society understands alcohol more than we understand weed. We know what the signs of alcohol abuse look like, more or less, and we are increasingly becoming uncomfortable with our peers regularly drinking to the point of drunkenness. It's acceptable occasionally, but even in college I see kind of a trend towards people refraining from that kind of behavior. It's completely different for pot atm. We don't under…

This sh*t known for few thousands of years. Guess what happened to early users. Do you need one more experiment to prove that?

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Post by refurb »

Harvey-Specter wrote: post #157
refurb wrote: post #139

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Source? I’m genuinely interested in the numbers.

The Canadian government started publishing the production and export numbers for licences medical producers at the end of 2017 [0]. Looks like the total amount exported is a few hundred kilograms of dried canabis and a few dozen liters of cannabis oil per month. [0] https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-medica...

That doesn’t seems like a huge amount to be honest.

It’s not unusual for marijuana busts in the US to be measured in tons.

I’d assume total US consumption is probably in the thousands of tons of marijuana?

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Post by simlevesque »

abledon wrote: post #270
simlevesque wrote: post #266

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No it's a huge Wordpress application. Started in 2016 and released in 2017. It's not ideal but it ended up being great. A huge part of the website is actually blog posts so it was a good match. I did not start the project and choose the tech but I ended up doing a large part of the project and led it when the lead dev quit (for unrelated reasons). I had lots of problems with the government hoster (CSPQ) but it all wo…

Php niiice , I love when critical government infra runs on the most despised languages on HN

It's not a critical infrastructure at all, it's just an info portal. It used to be a full html website made with Microsoft Frontpage by one lady who works there. We use PHP so that instead of a single huge html page filled with info which is useless for 90% of the people who'd read it, we ask your profile and then we filter only the relevant information.

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Post by thedaemon »

cheeko1234 wrote: post #221
thedaemon wrote: post #153

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It improves my quality of life. I use it daily to keep my anxiety down. I do not use it during work. I am a productive and happy person! But just like any substance, it can be abused. Thank goodness I do not drink alcohol anymore though. That stuff ruined me. It's a depressant which just made my anxiety and depression worse and almost ended my marriage.

Thanks for this comment. I was thinking of replacing it with alcohol due to legality but this gives me second thoughts... Although it'd be nice to not need anything, but it helps so much with anxiety (and other stuff).

Alcohol just covers it up temporarily and can ruin your sleep cycle as well. Have you tried exercise? That works for many people as well. Magic Mushrooms are also a very happy illegal substance that really help me.

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Post by derefr »

jerrysievert wrote: post #272
softawre wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We know, it's just that it is still illegal at the federal level. It's similar to the non-prosecution agreement mentioned in the Netherlands above.

> It's similar to the non-prosecution agreement mentioned in the Netherlands above not necessarily. in Oregon, it is tracked, taxed, and regulated. one can still grow their own and remove themselves from the tracking, but this is for personal consumption not for sale. there is still enforcement, and cooperation with the federal levels, specifically to help curb the black market and the problems that arise due to the…

The major practical difference to the average American citizen, is that the FDA is a federal organization, and so must still follow the federal ruleset when licensing drugs, even for products that will only be sold within a given state.

If an Oregon pharmaceutical company wanted to try to put THC in a pill; do a study for its positive effects against, say, anxiety; and then get it bottled and sold at drug stores—they still wouldn't be able to, because, even if the government of Oregon would love for them to do so, the Oregon state legislature isn't responsible for allowing or disallowing that to happen.

Whereas, if a Canadian pharmaceutical company now wants to attempt to get a cannabis byproduct licensed for prescription or OTC usage in Canada, they now totally can.

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Post by [deleted] »

beloch wrote: post #47

How Canada interfaces with the rest of the world promises to be a bit screwy. For just one example, consider airline staff. Some Canadian airlines have already banned employees from using pot. Obviously, the general public doesn't want to fly with pilots that are high in more than one way. These airlines also have to operate in countries, like the U.S., where their employees could be detained or expelled for even adm…

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